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Any expert on - Black Watch 42nd Regiment?

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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Feb 2008 14:41

I have discovered a ggg grandfather who served with the above regiment between1800-1824 as a Drum Major - Hugh Martin.
I have found his record at the National Archives and discovered that he was discharged from Limerick in 1824 through ill health to travel back from Dublin to Tain in Scotland. I'm sure there were possibly other records to find at the Archive Centre but I seemed to spend a lot of time getting nowhere!
I can't find any record of his death in Scotland -have had some help from the Highland FHS- and I have visited the Museum in Perth but they have no record of his death.
Anyone have any ideas please?
Also would anyone know if wives travelled with their military husbands at that time?
Thanks for any help.
Yvonne

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Feb 2008 15:05

I assume he got an Army pension? Are the records you have from National Archives his discharge papers? (WO97). It's possible, if you know where he lived, to find out where his pension was paid - he would have collected it locally. This would hopefully give a death date, or may give you an idea of when he died, when he disappears from the record

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Feb 2008 15:43

Hi Ann,
Thanks for replying. How would I find out where his pension was to paid? I can't remember now what W it was where I found his army record but it didn't say where his pension would be paid - just that he would heve one.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Feb 2008 15:46

The records for where his pension was paid will be at Kew. It would probably be nearest reasonably sized place to where he was living. If you can tell me where he was living, then I'll have a look on the catalogue for you. Do the records you have consist of an Attestation paper, rough outline of where he served and when discharged? If, so, I think it must be his discharge papers.

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Feb 2008 16:05

That is so kind of you Ann. Just checked the document - came from WO97 580. It seems to be a Statement of his entire service with his discharge date(1823) and reasons for discharge.
It seems that he was paid for travel from Limerick to Dublin and then on to Alness, Tain, in Ross(and Cromarty) but it doesn't actually say anything about pension payments. Thanks

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Feb 2008 16:13

So it was WO97! So did he actually live in Tain when he left the Army?

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Feb 2008 16:19

Just checked the dates for the pension payment records, and they start around 1842. Hope that's not too late! Nothing for Tain. What would be the nearest biggish town?

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Feb 2008 16:21

Can't find any record of him actually back in Tain or Scotland. I'm beginning to wonder if he ever made it back to Scotland.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Feb 2008 16:28

If you don't know where he lived, there's no chance of finding him in these records - well, unless you wanted to look at every town in the country! Had another idea - if his pension was granted by Chelsea, rather than Kilmainham (Ireland), there are records WO116 which are in date of discharge order, and MAY give an address, although won't tell you when he died.

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Feb 2008 17:38

Thanks Ann - I'll have to arrange another visit to Kew to have a look at WO116. I appreciate your time and support. Yvonne