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The parents of Ann marie

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Kimberley

Kimberley Report 20 Feb 2008 14:30

Hi iv been trying for ages now to find a Ann marie parkers parents and where they were in 1901 cencers, she was born in west brom in 1890 her dad was called Thomas parker not known where he was born as of yet bet we know they move to Leeds after Ann was born we've found out that her mother was called Mary p we think the p stands for Philomenia we also know that she had a sister called Frances parker it is also said that she had a lot more siblings
if any body has any info please get back to me im really lost on this one

Thank you

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Feb 2008 14:49

Possible marriage

Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%)
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PARKER Thomas Allington W.Bromwich 6b 99%)
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Parker Thomas W Bromwich 6b 1077

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
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Parker Thomas W.Bromwich 6b 1077

Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%)
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Parker Thomas W.Bromwich 6b 823




June

June Report 20 Feb 2008 15:00

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Parker Ann Maria W. Bromwich 6b 747



June x

June

June Report 20 Feb 2008 15:06

1891 found this one could read parker

Name: Annie Parkes
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Parkes 1
Caroline Parkes 35
Ellen Parkes 3
John Parkes 10
Leah Parkes 6
Thomas Parkes 37 West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Thomas Parkes 9




1901
Name: Annie Parkes
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 217
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Parkes 11
Caroline Parkes 44
Emily Parkes 1
John Parkes 20
Joseph Parkes 4
Leah Parkes 16
Thos Parkes 47
Thos Parkes 19
Will Parkes 8



June x

Tracy

Tracy Report 20 Feb 2008 15:06

Possible Marriages

Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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PAYTON Mary Price W.Bromwich 6b 812

Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%)
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Ninwood Mary Phoebe W.Bromwich 6b 976
WINWOOD Mary P W. Bromwich 6b 976

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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KNOWLES Mary Phoebe M West Bromwich 6b 997

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Smith Mary Pugh W. Bromwich 6b 1225

Marriages Jun 1886 (94%)
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SLEE Mary Pollie W. Bromwich 6b 882


Potty

Potty Report 20 Feb 2008 15:41

Kimberley

If you get the birth cert for the registration found by June, it will give you both her parents' names. Knowing that will help to search for their marriage and to find them on the census

Kimberley

Kimberley Report 20 Feb 2008 17:49

Yeah im cert on the name and area its mad iv found her birth death marrage but she's not in any census

Thank you all who tryed to help
thank you tracy for looking at the marrages there is two leads on them

thank you all once again

Kimberley

Kimberley Report 2 Mar 2008 10:04

Hi iv got the cert for Ann her mum was called Mary Webber and her dad was Thomas Parker the only problem im having now is the marrage of them is it possible for them not to be in the bmd iv looked in them from the 1860s to the 1900s but with no luck has anyone got any info on where i can look?

Regards kim

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2008 11:19

Kimberley

What was Thomas's occupation?

There is this family in 1901 - Thomas is a boat buider:
1901 England Census
about Ann M Parks
Name: Ann M Parks
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Golds Hill St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich, North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Ann M Parks 19
Elizabeth Parks 15
Emily Parks 8
Mary Parks 40
Mary A Parks 5
Thomas Parks 40

No, forget this have just noticed Ann's age.

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2008 11:24

Kimberley

What is the address on Ann's birth cert? Maybe we can find it on the 1891?

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2008 11:31

freebmd marriages are complete from 1871 to 1909 except for some gaps in 1886, 87 and 88. Do you have access to Ancestry? It might be worth checking the full indexes there for those years.

It is possible that the marriage has been left off the index or Mary might have been married before and remarried under her first married name.

I still can't find the family in 1891 or 1901

June

June Report 2 Mar 2008 11:34

1891 maybe

Name: Annie Parker
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: North Harborne
Town: Smethwick
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Parker 2
Mary A Parker 44
Sarah Parker 8
Thomas Parker 38
Thomas H Parker 10
James H Randon 39 Brother-in-law





June x

Kimberley

Kimberley Report 2 Mar 2008 11:47

I cant find them in the cens eather he was an umbrella maker and they live at 20 great bridge road West Bromwitch when Ann was born

Thanks Again all
kim x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Mar 2008 17:57

Hi Kim -- further to the PMs, and just to let you know I'm not ignoring you -- nope, I'm not having any more luck than you and everybody else here! They've hidden themselves well.

It would have been quite rude of them to move between Ann's birth and the 1891 census, I must say. But either they did, or Ancestry has pulled a fine number on them. Even still, like if Ancestry had decided to call them Curtes or something (I've seen just about that -- imagine transcribing Barnett as Carnett), searching for Ann by her name and birth date/place and place of residence, and her parents' given names, would usually find her.

I'll play with it some more, but so far I'm getting what everybody else has got. Slim possibilities and not much!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Mar 2008 18:35

Well here's something weird and annoying.

I found the occupants of 20 Great Bridge in the 1881 census, which you can search by address.

I tried tracing the occupants, James and Sarah White, forward, but they seemed to have gone. So I traced a neighbouring household forward -- Thomas and Mary Venables -- and looked at the image. They are at 18 Swan Village, the way it's shown on the census page, in 1891. Except it's the same place -- the pub is in the same place, the Whites in the neighbouring household are in the same place -- as 18 Great Bridge in 1881.

So the Whites are at "20 Swan Village" in 1891 (I checked the previous page, and that's the street address being used.) What became of Great Bridge??

Checked the description of West Bromwich South West, District 20, where that Swan Village address is in 1891. It refers to "left side of Swan Village to the Swan Canal Bridge", so it sounds like the same place likely.

Was some other street being called Great Bridge Road at that point?

Ah, on a modern map at google maps, I see Great Bridge St ending at Black Country New Road (or rather starting -- number 20 is right near the junction), and Swan Lane and New Swan Lane on the other side. Maybe it was that end of the road that changed name, and they lived on the other end.

Great Bridge St vs. Rd? There's no 20 Great Bridge St in 1881.

But dang, there's a Great Bridge Rd now; I was looking in the wrong place. They're quite separate. Maybe street names were reorganized there between 1881 and 1891.

I could suggest that you read the descriptions of all the enumeration districts in West Bromwich in 1891 and see whether there's any mention of Great Bridge Road!

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?
dbid=6598&path=Staffordshire.West+Bromwich
(copy and paste that back together, then click on the sub-registration district and on each enumeration district in turn, for a one-paragraph description of streets in the district)

That's do-able, but I don't think I'm up for doing it just now. ;)

Because one would really think that the address where they were when Ann was born no more than six months earlier would be a good place to look for them in 1891!