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Thomas Carter born Cinderford

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ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 23:14

Looks as if that was him, just a mystery as to where he was in 1881 but at least you've got his parents now.

Christine

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 22:18

To All,
Thanks for your time and effort
Pat x

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 20:35

Christine in Portugal
Yes, the 1871 census looks great.
There is a Tom Carter 3rd Q 1861 6a 202 born Westbury on Severn, might be a possible
Pat x

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 20:34

Here is the 1871 family that Christine found.

1881 England Census
about Wm. Carter
Name: Wm. Carter
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmsbury (East Dean), Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Flaxley
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Pembroke Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Carter 16
Jane Carter 47
Rose A. Carter 10
Wm. Carter 44


chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 20:27

What about this one?

1881 England Census
about Thomas A. Carter
Name: Thomas A. Carter
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Rubin Wm.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: South Hamlet
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 19 Robin Hood St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub registration district: South Hamlet
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Carter 5
Edith Carter 11
Elizabeth Carter 38
Elizabeth Carter 14
Rubin Wm. Carter 45
Thomas A. Carter 18
Amelia Pearce 26
Charles A. Pearce
Charles F. Pearce 35


Don't think so....Thomas & his father are both labourers

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 20:26

I can't read the age on the 1891 census but the death in 1892 was 29 years.

I think the 1871 is a likely match, just father's occ different.

I have to go out now but will look for the family later if not found.

Christine

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 20:20

Hi Chrisa
I dont think its him as it quotes place of birth as hindley Lancashire. If my death details are correct he should be approx 19 years
Pat x

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 20:16

I can't find a single Thomas Carter with a father named William in 1881 born around the right time.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 20:16

Possible in 1871

1871 England Census
about Tom Carter
Name: Tom Carter
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: East Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Cinderford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
11 months
Anne Carter 7
Emily Carter 5
James Carter 14
Jane Carter 36
John Carter 11
Tom Carter 9
William Carter 34


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2599; Folio: 15; Page: 21;

Will just check image for father's occ

Occ is labourer, 3 youngest children born Cinderford, all others Wiltshire.

ossible he could have thought he was born there as would only remember living there.

Christine

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 20:14

Hi Christine in Portugal
What age does the transcription give? Ive just got a photocopy of the original and its completely unreadable.
Pat x

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 20:14

I wonder if this could be him?


I'm no good with welsh geography.

1881 Wales Census
about Thos. Carter
Name: Thos. Carter
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Hindley, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Gresford - Gwersyllt
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Station Road
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thos. Carter 21
Benjn. J. Foster 42
Thos. Jackson 59
Elizth. Williams 36
Elizth. Williams 15
Jno. Williams 9
Robt. Williams 22
Thos. Williams 42


ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 20:04

He must be older than the transcribed age for 1891 because if that is his death Q1 1892 age 29, he must have been born 1862/3

Christine

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 20:02

Chrisa
Yes have found the original. 26/3/1884 Pontypridd. Thomas 22, Mary Alice 18, both resident at Llwynpia. (Father) William, I think he was alive because Mary Alice's father is quoted as deceased. Both Thomas and William quoted as collier

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 19:53

Patricia

Do you have the Marriage cert? Was his father still alive when he married?

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 19:53

Sorry, my fault - Alice Carter was christened
Mary Alice Stephens. It seems most of that side of the family were known by their middle names.
Pat x

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 19:53

i was searching all over for a Thomas married to a Mary.

No wonder I couldn't find it.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 19:50

Hadn't spotted that Chrisa

chrisa

chrisa Report 4 Jul 2008 19:47

So who was married to Mary?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 4 Jul 2008 19:42

1891 for ref

Wales Census
about Thomas Carter
Name: Thomas Carter
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Clydach
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Carter 25
Florence Carter 1
Perry Carter 4
Thomas Carter 25
William Carter 6

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4426; Folio 100; Page 51

Patricia

Patricia Report 4 Jul 2008 19:42

Hi Chrisa
RG12/4426
Pat