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Thank you, im a newbie...Jane

Hi Jane,

There is no birth comes up in Sheffield for Clifford so it looks very likely that the one in Barnsley is him.

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Christine

Hi Christine , you are amazing...this is the right family..THANKYOU..I think my grandad Clifford was born in sheffield Bramall Lane in about 1907...Thanks Jane..

Possible for Lizzie Cox, the marriage cert would confirm her father's name

1901 England Census
about E Lizzie Cox
Name: E Lizzie Cox
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Low Valley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wombwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Wombwell St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub registration district: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Cox 15
Elizabeth Cox 39 born Staffs, Blackheath
E Lizzie Cox 14
Ethel Cox 9
James Cox 7 months
Joseph Cox 39 born Worcestershire, coal miner
Joseph Cox 11
Samuel Cox 2
Walter Cox 19 born Worcestershire, Halesowen

All other children born Yorkshire

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4319; Folio: 163; Page: 32.

Christine

Possible birth of Clifford

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Harris Clifford Barnsley 9c 285

Same family in 1891

1891 England Census
about Henry Harris
Name: Henry Harris
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Ettingsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 38, Hurst Hill Rd

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Harris 11
Alice Harris 3
Elizabeth Harris 40
Elizabeth Harris 9
Henry Harris 37 coal miner
Joseph Harris 9/12
Samuel Harris 14
William H Harris 5


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2291; Folio 60; Page 19

Christine

Could this be your Wiliam in 1901?

1901 England Census
about William Harris
Name: William Harris
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sedgeley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Little Houghton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darfield All Saints
Town: Little Houghton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 14, Middle Cliffe cottages

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Harris 13
Elizabeth Harris 51
Elizabeth Harris 18
Henry Harris 47 coal hewer, underground
Joseph Harris 10
Lily Harris 5
William Harris 15 horse driver, underground


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4308; Folio: 174; Page: 10.

Christine

This could be the marriage

Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)


COX Lizzie Barnsley 9c 459
HARRIS William Henry Barnsley 9c 459

Christine

Thanks...I think William married Elizabeth in south Yorks, they had a son called Clifford, daughters Kathleen who moved to America, Betty and Maud who died young

or there is a henry harris born 1884 parents thomas and alice they were both born hereford henry is shown to be bilston there are 6 brothers and sisters listed 1891 census

there is a henry harris born 1885 stonnal staffs in the 1891 census parents james and hannah sister annie age 11 brothers john age 9 samuel age 15 shows his father was born aston warwickshire

some one help please!!! Im new to all this , trying to trace my family tree..great grandad callled William Henry Harris born around 1885, in Blstone, or stone in staffs fathers name Harry I think...moved to south Yorks,,married an Elizabeth Cox...Hope someone can help...Jane...