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Thanks Gillian,
looks like the first one is a winner, once again thanks for the time and effort.
Cheers
Terrry

In 1881 there is a MAURICE jones 59 b Lansannan married to Jane 40 with children Mary 28, Robert 16, John 13, Dinah 10, Elizabeth 8 Elinor 2 all born Llansannan BUT he is a farmer
(he also has a daughter Margaret Jones 24 wid "formerly labourers wife" and grandson

This family i9n 1871 were Maurice and Jane with Mary 18 Robert 6 John 3 Dinah 8mths - Maurice farmer of 61 acres

THIS looks to me to be the right one if the place and county given at the start are correct
1841 Llansannan Denbighshire
John Jone 49 Blacksmith
Sarah Jones 46
Sarah 23
Morris 17 Blacksmith
Thomas 12
Henry 9
David 7
Robert 4 Anne 2 all b Denbighshire

Thanks for the input Tracy and Julie, can't be sure of the wifes name. He did however have a daughter Margaret who married Thomas Atherton in Liverpool 1883.
Cheers
Terry

it does say that but the above is all i found who was a Blacksmith in 1881

Tracy

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
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John Phoebe Abergavenny 26 70
Jones Morris Abergavenny 26 70



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Strange i could of sworn blind it says Morris was born in LLansannan Denbeighshire

1851 Wales Census
about Morris Jones
Name: Morris Jones
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhmade, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Occupation: View Image SMITH
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Griffiths 11
Elizabeth Jones 9 Mo
Mary Jones 2
Morris Jones 26
Phebe Jones 24
Henry Morris 25
Sara Robert 20



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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2448; Folio: 549; Page: 41; GSU roll: 104186-104187.

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1861 Wales Census
about Morris Jones
Name: Morris Jones
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhyadr, Radnorshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Rumney
Town: Rumney
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image BLACKSMITH

Registration district: Bedwelty
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
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Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jones 12
Jane Jones 2
John Jones under 1 Mo
Mary Jones 4
Morris Jones 38
Morris Jones 10
Phoebe Jones 37



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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4002; Folio: 43; Page: 30; GSU roll: 543220.

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1871 Wales Census
about Morris Jones
Name: Morris Jones
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jeby
Gender: Male
Where born: Raidor, Radnorshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Rumney
Town: Rumney
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Jones 2
Jane Jones 13
Jeby Jones 47
Mary Jones 15
Morris Jones 48
Morris Jones 18


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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5329; Folio: 46; Page: 15; GSU roll: 848440.

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1881 Wales Census
about Morris Jones
Name: Morris Jones
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Rhayader, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married
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Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Rock Bedwelty
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
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Household Members: Name Age
Carlinor Jones 12
Jane Jones 22
Morris Jones 60
Morris Jones 28
Phebe Jones 59
Robert Jones 7



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Would he have been married by then, if so what was his wifes name

Trying to find any information before1881 on Morris Jones born LLansannan Denbeighshire circa 1821, occupation Blacksmith.
Cheers
Terry