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k / thanks a lot for helping me out james is indeed listed as a carter on williams marrage cert but it sayes he is deceased i will take another look and see what i can come up with thanks a lot for helping me out eric m

There is this James in 1841 whose father was a carter

1841

Name: James Moore
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
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Household Members: Name Age
Ann Moore 4 Mo
James Moore 35
James Moore 3
Margaret Moore 16
Mary Moore 12
Sarah Moore 35
Sarah Moore 9
Thomas Moore 6

Possible 1861 listed as a carter

Name: James Moore
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 37a
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Household schedule number: 303

Possible James and family in 1881 although John is rather old

1881

Name: James Moore
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Warwick St 2 Court 6 House
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Laborer

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
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Household Members: Name Age
Elizth. Moore 40
James Moore 41 General Labourer
John Moore 12
Mary Moore 6
Sarah Louise Moore 14
Wm.James Moore 1

All born Liverpool

Same family 1871

Name: James Moore
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mathew
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Moore 36
James Moore 36
John Moore 1 month
Sarah Moore 3

For reference this would appear to be the son John and his family in 1901 all born Liverpool but no father William(sorry James). There was a James Moore of the right age in the Toxteth Park Workhouse a retired carter born in Liverpool. Was Wlliam's father a carter on his marraige cert?

1901

Name: John Moore
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cleopas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
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Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Elizth Ann Moore 3
Ellen Moore 26
John Moore 28 Freight Clerk
Louisa Moore 1
William Moore 20 Boarder Freight Clerk

james was born c/1839the 1901 census has him as a widower living with his son john at haylock st toxteth park i cant fin him on an previous censuses john,s wife was ellin or ellen they had 2 daughters elizabeth 3y/o louisa 1y/oanother son of jameses lived at the same address (william 20 y/o) james appears on the marrage cert of william as deceased william married mary cath thompson 23/02/1902
any help on this would be appreciated
eric m