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Evan Price Williams Tailor and Draper of Cefn

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John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 08:37

Looking for two of his children
Ann Williams b 02/10/1878 may have married ? OLeary
Thomas Pask Williams b13/04/1884

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 08:42

for reference:-

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Williams Thomas Pask Merthyr T. 11a 548

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 08:48

possible marriage for Ann:-

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Williams Annie Merthyr T. 11a 799
O'Leary Daniel Merthyr T. 11a 799

John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 08:54

Thanks Catherine
Youve got the right Thomas Pask. I will contact Merthyr and ask them to check marriage certificate

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 08:59

for reference:-
ame: Evan P. Williams
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llan... Mathry

Civil Parish: Vaynor
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 136 High Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Williams 2 -1879-born: Vaynor, Breconshire
Evan P. Williams 39
Evan Rees Williams 4
Jus.Thos. Williams
Mary Williams 34 -1847- born: Llan... Mathry
Mary Jane Williams 5

John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 09:03

Theyre the family. Our link is Jus.Thos really John Thomas.

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 09:05

also for reference 1891:-

Name: Ann Williams
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Evan
Gender: Female
Where born: Cefn; Vaynor, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Vaynor
Ecclesiastical parish: Vaynor
Town: Cefn Coed
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Williams 12
Evan Williams 47 - Tailor - Widow
Evan Rees Williams 14
John Thomas Williams 10
Thomas Pask Williams 6 - 1885
born: Cefn; Vaynor, Breconshire


Just posting all I find as it makes it easier to find later info!

John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 09:08

Thanks Catherine

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 09:18

Think this might be Thomas in 1901:-

ame: Thomas Pase Williams
Age in 1901: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Cefn Coed Y Cymmer, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Penydarren St John
Town: Penydarren
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 264
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel B Jones 15
David E Jones 19
Eleanor Jane Jones 45
Hannah E Jones 16
James H Jones 16
John T Jones 22
William P Jones 4
Thomas Pase Williams 17 (Steel Rail Stoker)

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 09:28

Lots of possible marriages for Thomas but only one in Merthyr Tydfil:-

Type:Marriages Surname: williams First name(s): thomas p
Start date: Mar 1901 End date: Dec 1921 District: Merthyr Tydfil

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Williams Thomas P Brooks Merthyr T. 11a 1468
Brooks Emily A Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1468

maybe worth checking?

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 09:33

possible children that could go with this marriage:-

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Williams Beryl J (Brooks) Merthyr T 11a 1922

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Williams Gladys M (Brooks) Merthyr T. 11a 1647


Hope this helps!
Catherine

John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 14:13

Thanks Catherine
Do you think he had added Brooks to his name before marriage or was Brooks her name and he had added to his on marriage?

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Sep 2008 16:05

Brooks isn't part of the name. On freebmd.org , after about 1910 a marriage record shows the name of the other person on the marriage record.
ie: the surname of the person he/she married.
Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Williams Thomas P Brooks Merthyr T. 11a 1468
Brooks Emily A Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1468

Thomas P Williams married someone called Brooks.
Emily A. Brooks married someone called Williams.

The same with the birth records.
After about 1910 the record shows the name of the child and also the maiden name of the mother.

Hope that was clear.
Catherine

John

John Report 8 Sep 2008 21:30

Thanks very much.I hadnt come across that before.I think all the marriages Ive looked up were pre that date.