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David Ivor Davies (Ivor Novello)

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2008 23:24

There is a tree on Ancestry that claims this is Clara in 1901 census

Name: Clara N Davies
Age in 1901: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Croft, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: St John
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: West Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 213
Household Members: Name Age
Clara N Davies 39
Edith A Tarr 15
Jone E William 23
Marie N William 17

She is shown as married and teacher of music



Strange that of all the trees on Ancestry they do not seem to have much info on David.

One even has a picture of Ivor with his parents

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2008 22:54

Get the birth cert

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Davies David Ivor Cardiff 11a 363

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 9 Sep 2008 22:54

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about David Ivor Davies
Name: David Ivor Davies
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Llandilofawr
County: Carmarthenshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 640

the marriage cert with clara will give his fathers name and then you can confirm it with birth cert

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2008 22:52

1891 I think this is the family given the occupation of David & Clara


Name: Clara N Davies
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Cefnllys
Ecclesiastical parish: Cefnllys
Town: Llandrindod Wells
County/Island: Radnorshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Rhayader
Sub registration district: Nantmel
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Theresa H Asher 19
Clara N Davies 29 Professor of Music
David Davies 38 Cardiff - Poor Rate Collector
George Dobson 22
Arthur Duggan 19
Wiliam L Griffiths 25
Laura Hughes 15
Edward Jenkins 54
Elizabeth Jenkins 54
Elizabeth Jenkins 24
Margaret Jones 25
Thomas Morris 54
Jennie Price 27
Joseph Sykes 31



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4585; Folio 18; Page 18; GSU roll: 6099695.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 9 Sep 2008 22:49

1891 Wales Census
about David Davies
Name: David Davies
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwas
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedwas
Town: Bedwas Upper
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport
Sub registration district: Mynyddyslwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Davies 26
David Davies 27
Margaret A Davies 4
Richard H Davies 1
Sidney Davies 3


Heather

Heather Report 9 Sep 2008 22:48

If that IS them then there must have been a previous marriage?

You need to buy the marriage cert.

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 9 Sep 2008 22:46

think this is them on 1901

1901 Wales Census
about David W Davies
Name: David W Davies
Age in 1901: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedwas, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwas
Ecclesiastical parish: Fleur de Lis St David
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub registration district: Mynyddislwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Beatrice Davies 3
Clara Davies 36
David Davies 37
David W Davies 7
Edith M Davies 5
Edwin Davies 9
Margt Ann Davies 14
Richd H Davies 11
Sidney Davies 13


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2008 22:45

Well I will not bother finding them on the census then

Shame because they are on the 1891

Heather

Heather Report 9 Sep 2008 22:45

Glitter has given you his parents marriage ref. Buy that cert for more information for £7 from GRO online

The 1881 census is free to view on familysearch or ancestry.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2008 22:36

Google, Google and Google

January 15, 1893 – March 6, 1951

Novello was born at Llwyn-yr-Eos (Grove of the Nightingale), Cowbridge Road East, Cardiff, Wales, to the well-known singer and teacher, Clara Novello Davies, and David Davies, a tax collector.




Possible marriage
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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Davies Clara Novello Cardiff 11a 488
Davies David Cardiff 11a 488
GREEN Mary Ann Cardiff 11a 488
VAUGHAN Charles James Cardiff 11a 488

Edna

Edna Report 9 Sep 2008 22:32

Could anyone please help with information on Ivor Novello's father
David Davies. I know he was a tax inspector (!!) in Cardiff and that's
about all. I can find any amount on Ivor and his mother Clara but
it's like looking for a needle in a haystack with the Davies surname.
Does anyone know his date and place of birth ? I would be very grateful. Thanks Ed