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I am looking for my ancestor, George Middleton b. 1836, Harrow on the Hill, father Samuel. George later moved to Islington but returned to the Greenford area after his marriage. I would be very grateful if anyone can find him as I'm having trouble locating a mother for George because I can't order a birth cert.

Many thanks for any information you can provide.

Helen

Thanks for both of those, they look possible. We only have George's birth date from his death cert from June 1871 when he was 34 (died of smallpox, nasty) so that would mean he was probably born 1836/7 but I know that these things are often wrong.

Many thanks for the information.

Helen

I've just checked free BMD for a birth for George for 1839 but there doesn't seem to be anything likely, I therefore presume this one might be 'mine'! Is there any way of finding his parents marriage records?

Sorry, meant to ask - did you have any occupation registered for Samuel please?

Thanks

Do you have George's marriage cert for his father's occupation?

The Samuel posted above was a sawyer.

Christine

Thanks Christine, I'll check the marriage cert.

Hi Tania, did you have a place of birth for Sophia please?

Thanks

Hi Christine, Samuel was a sawyer according to the cert so we are likely to be looking at the right family then!

Seems as if it is the right one, here are the family in 1861. did the age on marriage cert tie up with birth or death?

1861 England Census
about Sophia Middleton
Name: Sophia Middleton
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Weybridge, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Great Greenford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
George Middleton 21
Samuel Middleton 17
Sophia Middleton 67 widow
Sophia Middleton 19


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 781; Folio: 129; Page: 15

Christine

Deaths Dec 1859 (>99%)
Middleton Samuel Brentford 3a [58]7

Deaths Sep 1867 (>99%)
Middleton Sophia 68 Brentford 3a 63

Christine

Is this your family in 1871? Which one of the children are you descended from as I can't find them after 71?

1871 England Census
about George Middleton
Name: George Middleton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Vane
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenford, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Harrow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Greenford
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hendon
Sub registration district: Harrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
George Middleton 36
George Middleton 4
Henry Middleton 10 months
Vane Middleton 40
Anne Negus 6 adopted child


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1324; Folio: 61; Page: 38

Christine

Thanks for all that Christine! The marriage cert just said Full Age so I've only had the death cert for George to work out his birth date.

Thank you for the 1871 census, I am descended from Henry. The reason you haven't found them on the 1881 is because George died in June 1871 and his widow (Jane, not Vane!?) and children (minus adopted child) were mis-transcribed as Middlestone or something similar and it took me ages to locate them! Henry moved to York with the army by 1891 so took some finding as well.

Many thanks for Sophia's birth place as well. Will be looking for their marriage next.

Thank you for all the time you must have spent on this.

Kind regards

Helen

1851 England Census
about Kiziah Willis
Name: Kiziah Willis
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Amwell, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Amwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Amwell
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ware
Sub registration district: Hoddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Negus 31 [married daughter]
Ann Negus 5 [g.daughter]
Henry Negus 1 [ g.son]
Jane Negus 7 [g.daughter]
Kiziah Willis 61


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Wow! This is obviously the origin of the Anne Negus 'adopted child' living with George and family in 1871, probably a child or grandchild of this Ann, thank you very much for all that information Tania, this has been a mystery for a while.

Kind regards

Helen

Marriages Mar 1844 (>99%)


HARRIS Mary Ware 6 717
LONG John Ware 6 717
<<<NEGUS John Ware 6 717
NEWTON Daniel Ware 6 717
SPRINGHAM Mary Ware 6 717
<<<WILLIS Ann Ware 6 717

Christine

A bit more info

1871 Wales Census
about Ann Negus
Name: Ann Negus
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Erbistock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Foulks 17
Ann Negus 51
George E Negus 9
John Negus 52 born Huntingdonshire, occ innkeeper
John W Negus 17
Thomas W Negus 15

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5652; Folio: 13; Page: 10;

1861 Wales Census
about Ann Negus
Name: Ann Negus
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Amwell, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish or Township: Erbistock
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Negus 41
Ann Negus 15
Harry Negus 11
John Negus 42
John Negus 7
Lewis Negus 17
Thomas Negus 5

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4280; Folio: 4; Page: 8;

Christine

Thank you for all that info Christine, I wonder why little Ann was living with George and family then, she was a long way from her parents...I've tried to find her on the 1881 census but no luck yet.

Helen

UPDATE!

Found her in Cheshire with a family (probably another Aunt) and one of the Negus boys (probably her brother) but going by the surname Middleton!

Confusing lot, this family.