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Help Needed to Find Robert Murdoch Montgomery, Bor

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Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 15:17

He was born in Gladsmuir, East Lothian, Scotland .. at 5:00 am on June 12th 1859. He was the fourth child of David Montgomery and Jean/Jane Hislop. David Montgomery registered him
Thereafter there is no trace!
I have tried census and death records. Scotland and England.
His mother did leave David Montgomery, his alleged father, pre 1862 and went to live in England with one Robert Murdoch (calling himself Pettigrew ... his mother's maiden name)
There is no evidence that Jane took any of her Scottish offspring with her.
Could I be missing something? Another pair of eyes would be most welcome.
Thanks
Carole

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 13 Sep 2008 15:54

Do you have the birth cert...is that where the above info is from? Do you have no sighting of him at all? Were David and Jean/Jane married? Did David die?

Suzanne

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥

♥Betty Boo from Dundee♥ Report 13 Sep 2008 16:39

I Found this one in England!!
could it be them? Not sure really. I can't find anything in Scotland for them.

1861 England Census 1861 England Census
Name: Robert Montgomery
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Westminster St Anne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Montgomery 4
James Montgomery 6
Jane Montgomery 34
Mary Montgomery 11
Robert Montgomery 38
Robert Montgomery 2
William Montgomery 8




Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 17:12

Hello Suzanne
Thank you for your interest.Yes, the birth information I have is from a Scottish Birth Certificate.

No, after the birth I can find no further records of any sort!

David Montgomery and Jane Hislop were married in 1850, in East Lothian, Scotland. I have seen this certificate on Scotland's people. David was 20 years Jane's senior.

David Montgomery died in Tranent Scotland in October 1870, age 66. I have the certificate.

Carole

Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 17:36

Hello Betty Boo
Thanks so much for trying but I don't think the above fits?
The 'husband' of Jane would be either David Montgomery OR Robert Murdoch (quite probably calling himself Pettigrew) ... Not Robert Montgomery!!!
Jane Heslop, who is almost certainly the Jane/Jean Hislop of Tranent Scotland, .. turned up in Jarrow, Durham, in January 1862 on the birth certificates of her twin daughters, Sarah and Margaret Pettigrew. The father being named as Robert Pettigrew; who was actually Robert Murdoch, born Stair Scotland 1829. Pettigrew was his mother's maiden name.
Jane called herself Pettigrew in 1862 but I have no evidence that they were married. David Montgomery was still alive in 1862.
Jane and Robert may have finally married in the 1880s and I await a marriage certificate with fingers crossed but I digress; this does not help me with the disappearance of Robert Murdoch Montgomery from the records.
Carole

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 13 Sep 2008 17:40

Have you found David Montgomery in 1851 and 1861?

What was his occupation?



1861 is this him?

Name: Christina Montgomery
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Tranent, Haddington
Registration Number: 722
Registration district: Tranent
Civil Parish: Tranent
County: East Lothian
Address: Back Street (west Of Church St)
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 70
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_135
Household Members: Name Age
Christina Montgomery 7
David Montgomery 56



Matches an entry in 1851 with wife Jane

Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 18:55

Yes Glitter Baby
That's David Montgomery, Jane Hislop's husband and Christina was one of their four children born 25th May 1854. David, their first, had been born in 1852, Seton was born in January 1857 and died in November 1858 and Robert Murdoch Montgomery was born in 1859.
Where was Robert M, age 2, at the time of that 1861 Census???
But also, where was Jane for that matter? And which name did she use? (I've tried Montgomery, Hislop, Heslop, Pettigrew, Petticrew and Murdoch against the 1861 census; with no luck).
David Montgomery died in 1870, age 66. Jane Hislop is listed as his wife but she was long gone and living in Durham with five more children.
Carole

Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 20:53

Jane Montgomery formerly Hislop was born to Christopher Hislop and Agnes Wilson on 29/10/1826.
in East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) Scotland.

Carole

Carole Report 13 Sep 2008 21:24

I only know of Scotland's people, as a way of tracing deaths in Scotland.
Is there any other route/site?
Robert Murdoch Montgomery's, seemingly total disappearance, would suggest to me that he died? But I can find no evidence that he did!

Carole

Carole Report 14 Sep 2008 00:26

Sorry Glitter Baby ... I missed an answer.
David Montgomery was a limestone labourer/burner (whatever that was?).
Carole