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handout

handout Report 23 Sep 2008 23:57

Trying to find out what I can about my great grandparents also great great grandparents.I have the marrigae certificate of my great grandparents.Which is 1st July 1908 st pancras Percy wright age 28yrs railway goods porter living at 7 Archer street father Henry Wright (deceased) Gun maker.Mary ann Murphy age 32yrs living at 129 Bayham street father john murphy (deceased) general labarour.There was two witnesses caroline murphy percy pouriday last name unsure of.There has been talk that Mary had a sight problem on the marriage certificate mary has not signed it is just the mark of mary murphy.I dont know how to get the imformation from the marrige certificate ie not knowing births etc an di wish to follow the rest up can any help,Idont even know is there is anymore siblins i have tried the electrol regist also .

moggie57

moggie57 Report 24 Sep 2008 00:40

if you got their marriage certificate ,you can work out how old they were .then you look for their birth certificate.on that should be their parents..and where they were living..

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 24 Sep 2008 00:55

It is perfectly normal for those times to just make a mark if they were not schooled.What district was the marriage ?

handout

handout Report 25 Sep 2008 02:05

dear wendy and lindsey thanks for your replies,I do have the marriage certificate and i have worked out the age also both fathers names are on the marrisge certificate. The problem I am finding is I have nothing else to go on so how can i get birth certificate when i dont even know possible area of births.

handout

handout Report 25 Sep 2008 02:06

the marriage took place in st pancras London,the streets are also in London

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Sep 2008 04:33

handout

That is all the information that you get on an English marriage certificate.

Your next step is to try to find each of them on an earlier census with a father with the same name as that on the certificate ..... you do have the added benefit of one of the witnesses probably being a sister.


That gives you the approximate age, and the census will also say at least the county of birth.



Nothing comes easy in chasing up your family!! It all takes time and effort.


But you can ask other members on here to help you



sylvia

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 25 Sep 2008 04:42

Been looking for possible Percy Wright and Mary Ann Murphy. Nothing showing so far. With fathers both deceased its possible they were in 1901.

I have even looked for Henry Wright gun maker in 1881.
Looks like a long search needed checking every Henry Wright in any area who is a gun maker. It might be Mary Ann isnt with her family. Then looking for Caroline might help but father a general labourer can bring up plenty of possibilities.

Also with a name like Murphy she could be born in Ireland and not on the 1901 census at all

Can you take another look at the witness name Pouriday. Never heard of that and no birth,marriage,death or census for the name

Dea

Dea Report 25 Sep 2008 11:12

I have been following this Henry but I CANNOT link him to Percy (unless Percy was the son of his second wife Florrie and I can't find a marriage for her to Henry to find her name............ dratt !!!!.

Perhaps someone else can link them?

1891:
Name: Henry Wright
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil Parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick J Wright 9
Gertrude Wright 2
Henry Wright 34 ...............Gun Barrel Maker
Henry W Wright 13
Lucy Wright 7
Sarah Wright 35 b London St Pancras


2 Garfield Buildings ???

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1044; Folio 23; Page 48; GSU roll: 6096154.

Source Information:

......
1881:
Henry Wright
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil Parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 106 Stanhope St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Gunmaker **********************

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick J. Wright
Henry Wright 24
Henry W. Wright 3
Sarah Wright 25




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 177; Folio: 87; Page: 33; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341038.

Source Information:


Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Critchard Frederick William Pancras 1b 158
Gibb Sophia Catherine Pancras 1b 158
Parlett Sarah Pancras 1b 158
Wright Henry Pancras 1b 158

.....
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
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BROAD Sarah Pancras 1b 129
DEVENISH Mary Susan Pancras 1b 129
Gray William Pancras 1b 129
Wright Henry Pancras 1b 129

........
Deaths Sep 1894
Wright Sarah 39 Pancras 1b 64

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Name: Henry Wright
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Florrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Camden
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub registration district: Camden Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Florrie Wright 32 ................... b Birmingham
Henry Wright 45 ...................Gun Barrel Filer


at 54 King Street


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 147; Folio: 155; Page: 13.


Dea x