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I think that on the career front things were improving for John and his family and I'm sure that shoe making would have been a nice little side-earner !

Thank you very much for that. I thought that I must be something I'm missing and it would make sense him being married previously. This is getting rather interesting. Thank you for your help

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Name: John Roberts
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Condover, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bayley 16, apprentice
John Chidley 17, apprentice
Elizabeth Roberts 40, wife
John Roberts 38, head
Margaret Roberts 13, daughter
Esa Salt 20, servant

Master shoemaker employing 7 men

Looks as though John had been married before..

1871 England Census about John Roberts
Name: John Roberts
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Ruyton, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members:
Name Age
Angers Mc Donald 17, apprentice
Elizabeth Roberts 50, wife
Elizabeth Roberts 23, servant
John Roberts 48, shoe maker
Margaret Ruy 8, niece

1891 England Census about John Robert
Name: John Robert
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Pegton, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Collin 35
Elizabeth Robert 7
Frederick W Robert 5
John Robert 68
John E Robert 12
Mary A Robert 44

John's occupation looks like agent and finance dealer and though the record states his birthplace as Pegton - other census records read Ryton

In this census John is a Bootmaker but by 1891 he's in the insurance business..........

1881 England Census about John Roberts
Name: John Roberts
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Ryton, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 57 House High St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Boot Maker
Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Collins 27
John Roberts 58
John E. Roberts
Mary A. Roberts 34
Agnes Taylor 48

Her name is definatley Mary Ann, i have got Freds birth cert already with her name on it. It also says John was a shoe maker

Thank you very much for that. Seems odd that when Frederick was born his dad was 63! Thank you

There is a marriage for John Roberts to Mary JANE Taylor in March quarter of 1880, Stoke - on - Trent
Vol 6b Page 288

1901 England Census about Frederick W Roberts
Name: Frederick W Roberts
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Moxley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Moxley All Saints
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Roberts 17
Frederick W Roberts 15
John Roberts 78
Mary A Roberts 53

Hi,

I am trying to find more information on JOHN ROBERTS. I know that he married MARY ANN TAYLOR and that they had at least 1 child FREDERICK WILLIAM born in DARLASTON on 23rd JULY 1885. I would be grateful for help in finding Birth, Marriage and Death of John and/or Mary Ann if someone could help please?

Many thanks in advance

Michelle