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i am trying to find out if james edgar young was married before he married mary mayers in 1886 as some of his children were born before he got married. he came from the portsea area born 1850

The marriage cert will say if he was a widower.

Have you looked on freebmd for an earlier marriage?

If not......this is the web address

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

What is his marital staus on the 1881 census?

havent got any record in the 1881 census he died in 1893

I can't see the marriage you refer to for 1886........where was it registered?

Well, perhaps you'd care to check 1881.............if you can find him, give us the details

OK......found one half of the marriage...........groom not transcribed

Marriages Mar 1886 (97%)

Jordan Thomas Portsea 2b 654
MAYERS Mary Ann Portsea 2b 654
MILES Margaret Eliza Portsea 2b 654

Your info about his birth year is incorrect..........according to the death reg'n

Name: James Edgar Young
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 53
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 339

1891 census for clarification

Name: James E Young
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Milton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Portsmouth
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Portsmouth Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred E Young 8
Davey E Young 2
George F Young 12
James E Young 51
James W Young 13
Lilly E Young 3
Mary A Young 37 b. Calne, Wilts

still cant find him in 1881 census ! In the 1891 census he lived at 100 st thomas street in portsea. mary mayers married agian in 1898 to william guest. I found a recorf of a james young marrying a jane elizabeth ray in 1882 but cant get that verified as to whether it the same person but it was at portsea but some of his children were still born before that date

From my (very limited) experience people did not follow the conventional get married then have children route even in the 1800's.

Yes i know but you still like to think that they did do it the conventional way !!! but to be honest from what i have found out about my family the last couple of days it wouldnt surprise me !!!!!

According to 1891 census James was Paralysed...................

Incidentally, the children may not necessarily have been his..........they could have been Mary's.

Have you looked for her in 1881?

Well, looks like the older ones were James's

Name: George Frederick Young
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 487

Name: Alfred Edgar Young
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 510

Name: James William Young
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 452

If you are to solve this, I think you are going to have to get at least one cert...............

thanks ! I thought they might have been but cant find any record of james e beibg married before !