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Barker Johnson

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 15 Nov 2008 17:50

Hi, I am trying to find out more on my Great Great Grandfather Barker Johnson. I have his Birth Certificate which has no father on there and isn't on his marriage cert either. Born 24/06/1851 in Kirby Moorside, Helmsley, Wombleton. Mothers name is Jane Johnson - guessing its her maiden name :(
Informant has the mark of Elizabeth Slater Occupier of Court Garths. There is a Cote Garth on a Wombleton map but no idea what it was or is.
Barker married Ann Barker atStonegrave, Helmsley 25/11/1872.

This is the reason why I gave up researching altogether 3 years ago and I deeply regret it but I just felt I wasn't getting anywhere.

Any help will be really appreciated!!

Thank you so much,

Kate

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Nov 2008 18:10

1881 census

Barker JOHNSON Head M Male 27 Wombleton, York, England Ag Labourer
Ann JOHNSON Wife M Female 29 Oswaldkirk, York, England Ag Labourer Wife
Jane Ann JOHNSON Daur Female 7 Harum, York, England Scholar
George Wm. JOHNSON Son Male 4 Harum, York, England
Florence JOHNSON Daur Female 2 Harum, York, England
Tom JOHNSON Son Male 8 m East Newton, York, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling East Newton
Census Place East Newton & Laysthorp, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342163
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4824 / 59
Page Number 8

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Nov 2008 18:10

BARKER JOHNSON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 10 AUG 1851 Helmsley, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Mother: JANE JOHNSON Family

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 15 Nov 2008 18:11

This the 1861 census

Name: Barker Johnson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Wombleton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Harum
Town: Harum
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Helmsley
Sub registration district: Helmsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Barker 57 Ag Lab
Barker Johnson 9
Jane Johnson 45 Housekeeper

Barker is listed as Nephew to Thomas and Jane is a Servant to Thomas..... I wonder whether there is a connection between Jane & Thomas (both are listed as unmarried) as 'Barker' is an unusual firstname.

As you most probably are aware if there is no father listed on birth cert and marriage cert it normally means that that person was illegitimate.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Nov 2008 18:12

Restoration Work on the Dovecote


Standing in Dove Cote Garth this octagonal medieval stone dovecote was part of the
Old Hall of the Lord of the Manor. The original Gisborough Hall was built from stone from the
ruined Priory but was demolished in 1847

If you google for Cote Garth as I did there is a picture of it

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 15 Nov 2008 18:16

This is Jane in the 1851 census when she would have been pregnant with Barker.

Name: Jane Johnson
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Harum
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Helmsley
Sub registration district: Helmsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Margret Barker 30 Wife
Thomas Barker 47 Head occ Ag Lab
Jane Johnson 34 Lodger

Perhaps Margaret Barker is Jane's married sister


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Nov 2008 21:35

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 17 Nov 2008 18:04

Thank you so much for the replies. It looks like I am not a Johnson!?! Confusing! This is why I gave up looking last time. Will dig deeper!!

Thanks,
Kate