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BYRON WILLIAM ROBERTS

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Alysoun

Alysoun Report 16 Dec 2008 12:00

TRYING TO TRACE AUSTRALIAN RELATIONS-GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS ABOARD S.S BAHIA CASTILLO 1919.WAS PREVIOUS MUNITION WORKER IN UK.WENT TO AUSTRALIA AFTER DIVORCING WIFE (SUSAN? SARAH?AMELIA MAUDE)LEFT A SON CALLED CYRIL BYRON BEHIND.TRAIL HAS GONE COLD ONCE HE DOCKED IN QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA BUT WE BELIEVE HE MAY HAVE REMARRIED AND POSSIBLE ANOTHER CHILD BORN-WE THINK A DAUGHTER.ANY ONE WITH INFO PLEASE MAKE CONTACT.WE WOULD LOVE TO TIE UP THE LOOSE ENDS HERE IN UK.THANX TO ALL THE LOVELY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH INFO I HAVE BEEN BUSYING AWAY ALL AFTERNOON.I STILL NEED TO FIND BYRONS 3RD CHILD BY HIS SECOND MARRIAGE TO MYEE G ROBERTS NEE HOWARTH.THEY HAD A DAUGHTER AND NAMED HER JACQUELIN(e).JACKIE REGISTERED HER FATHERS DEATH IN 1957 6TH JAN-THE ADDRESS 21 BLACKET STREET IS OF SIGNIFICANCE.JACKIE WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND 34YRS OF AGE WHEN BYRON DIED SO WAS BORN AROUND c1914 ish.IF ANY ONE KNOWS JACKIE OR OF A LINK TO HER I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW-WOLLONGONG IS ALSO THE AREA THEY SEEMED TO HAVE SETTLED IN.HER MOTHER DIVORCED BYRON AND RE MARRIED.THANX AGAIN GUYS-ALY XXX

Grumpy

Grumpy Report 16 Dec 2008 12:06

hi,
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936
about Byron William Roberts
Name: Byron William Roberts
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1930
State: New South Wales
District: Werriwa
Subdistrict: Wollongong
hope this helps

Grumpy

Grumpy Report 16 Dec 2008 12:14

5243 roberts, byron william, ellen street, wollongong, carpenter, m
the only other roberts shown on ellen street, is a
5253, roberts, myee gladys, ellen street, wollongong, home duties, f

Grumpy

Grumpy Report 16 Dec 2008 12:15

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936
about Byron William Roberts
Name: Byron William Roberts
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: New South Wales
District: Werriwa
Subdistrict: Wollongong

Grumpy

Grumpy Report 16 Dec 2008 12:19

1936
7166, roberts, byron william, 51 market street, wollongong, carpenter, m
also
7177, roberts, myee gladys, 51 market street, wollongong, home duties, f

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 16 Dec 2008 12:33

Marriage...

Reg.No/Year .. 7924/1920
Groom .. ROBERTS BYRON W
Bride .. HOWARTH MYEE G
District .. WOLLONGONG

Death...

Reg.No/Year .. 7397/1957
Name .. ROBERTS BYRON WILLIAM
Father .. BYRON WILLIAM
Mother .. EMMA
District .. WOLLONGONG

If you think that this is your Byron, then it is well worth getting his death certificate.
Australian death certificates usually have a lot of extra info., including a list of all children with their age at the time of Byron's death.
Joy Murrins can do it more cheaply than the official site. (google her)

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 16 Dec 2008 12:46

Hi Alysoun, here is the marriage of Byron to Myee Howarth 1920

number 7924/1920

also, if you can access the Australian National Archives.
http://www.naa.gov.au/

top row press collections.
search as a guest user
type in his full name
just one will come up. your Byron.
there are 16 pages of info on him including his wanting to stay on in England to finalise his divorce.
he was previously in Australia leaving in 1917 to work in munitions in England. returning in 1919.

kind regards, Lorraine in sunny Mackay QLD

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 17 Dec 2008 10:12

Great work everyone! The death cert and the file on RecordSearch should be of great help to you, Alysoun.

By the by...

Myee G I E HOWARTH was born in Redfern district NSW in 1896 (reg 25041) to Wm L [Louis?, b. 1864 Campbelltown, d. 1940 W'gong] & Eliza Jane (nee GOODFELLOW, b. 1874 Berrima, d. 1934 W'gong).

Can't find her death, she may have remarried.

:-)
Cherilyn

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 17 Dec 2008 11:19

Hi there, it looks like Myee did remarry.
13996/1943
Myee Gladys Roberts. married
Frederick De Renzie Duncan
Sydney

kind regards, Lorraine

Lewella

Lewella Report 17 Dec 2008 11:30

Myee's death

24731/1968
DUNCAN, MYEE GLADYS I E
Father: WILLIAM LOUIS
Mother: ELIZA JANE
WOLLONGONG

If Byron died in 1957 and Myee remarried in 1943, they must have been divorced

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 17 Dec 2008 11:31

Hi again...just noticed Myee's marriage to Duncan was in 1943.

Byron William Roberts did not die until 1957.

if they are the same couple..then they divorced also.

kind regards, Lorraine.

Lewella

Lewella Report 17 Dec 2008 11:36

Death registration looks like the right one:


1891 England Census
about Byron W Roberts
Name: Byron W Roberts
Age: 9/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Byron W B E
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Chichester, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Chichester
Sub registration district: Chichester
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Byron W B E Roberts 31
Emma Roberts 31
Reginald E Roberts 2
Byron W Roberts 9/12

Lewella

Lewella Report 17 Dec 2008 11:38

The first marriage in UK


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Byron W Roberts
Name: Byron W Roberts
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's name: Susan A M Bird
District: Tonbridge
County: Kent, Sussex
Volume: 2a
Page: 1135

Alysoun

Alysoun Report 17 Dec 2008 12:05

WILLIAM BYRON ROBERTS-LIKE WOW YOU LOT IN AUSTRALIA YOU ARE VERY ON THE BALL.SO THIS MORNING I HAVE LEARNT FROM YOU THAT BYRONS MUM WAS CALLED EMMA AND THAT HE MAY WELL HAVE DIVORCED HIS SECOND WIFE CALLED MYEE
I WILL TRY TO GET HOLD OF DEATH CERT SO AS TO FIND OUT MORE-ESPCIALLY ABOUT ANY SIBLINGS THAT HAVE THE ROBERTS SURNAME.
I HAVE RESEARCHED SUSAN AMELIA MAUDE(FIRST WIFE) AND EVEN PINGED EMAILS TO GENES REUNITED MEMBERS IN UK THAT QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SAME ANCESTRY TREE AS ME BUT THEY ARE NOT FORTH COMING AND DONT REPLY WHICH IS A REAL SHAME.SO THANX AGAIN TO ALL YOU OZZI RESEARCHERS-IM REALLY CHUFFED WITH YOUR RESULTS-ALY X

Lewella

Lewella Report 17 Dec 2008 22:14

A marriage:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Byron William B E Roberts
Name: Byron William B E Roberts to either Emma Burgess or Eliza Emma Saunders (you need to purchase certificate to ascertain which one)
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 760

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 19 Dec 2008 01:40

In the 1881 census Byron W ROBERT [sic] is aged 21, unmarried, a clerk (b. Westminster, Middlesex) and living with widowed mother Susannah (54, b. Dorchester Dorset) and siblings Derwent E (18, b. Westminster Middlesex), Percy (15, b. Lambeth Surrey) and Archie (12, Bromley Middlesex).

Looks like a birth for Byron Wm Barnard ROBERTS in Jun qu 1860 in Westminster, Middlesex.

Susannah is a grocer & Derwent is an insurance agent, and they are living in Centaur St, Portsea, Hampshire.

This fits with Byron snr's 1888 marriage in Hampshire.

The 1901 census shows him living in Tunwells Kent aged 41 as a 'domestic machinery dealer' with sons Byron Wm aged 10, Bert aged 9 and Reginald E aged 12 (all b. Sussex Chichester). No sign of Emma but I don't have full access. Maybe someone who has can see if he was widowed?

From FreeBMD:

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Roberts Byron William Chichester 2b 375


This birth cert may be worth ordering from GRO.

Just a tip - when you type msgs in the boards, don't type all in upper case as IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE SHOUTING and it is hard to read! :-) better to use all lower case instead

:-)

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 19 Dec 2008 01:47

Aly, have you checked out the file online for Byron jnr that Lorraine found?

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Search as a guest as type in Byron William Roberts
You will get one 'hit'
When you open it you can look at a digitised copy
Page 7 is of particular interest re his divorce in England

:-)
Cherilyn

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 19 Dec 2008 11:22

The census records that Cherilyn found...

1901 England Census about Byron W Roberts
Name: Byron W Roberts
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, London, England

Civil Parish: Tunbridge Wells
Ecclesiastical parish: Tunbridge Wells, St James
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 6 St. James Pk.
Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:......Married......<<<<<<<

Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
Byron W Roberts 41
Reginald E Roberts 12
Byron William Roberts 10
Bert Roberts 9