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John Thomas

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Stuart

Stuart Report 20 Jan 2009 13:59

Dea,

Many thanks. What I've got is:

October 12th 1890 at Holy Trinity Church, Islington
George William THOMAS, 23, Bachelor, Carman of 72 Cloudesley Road, son of John THOMAS, Horsekeeper (deceased) married Annie Agnes NAPIER, 22, Spinster also of 72 Cloudesley Road, daughter of James NAPIER, Shoemaker.

Witnesses were Edwin Boyd NAPIER (who is Annie's brother) and Elizabeth Louisa EVES - not sure of the exact relationship, but Annie's elder sister Wilhelmina had been married to an EVES, and Wilhelmina was also living at 72 Cloudesley Road in the 1891 census with husband PARSONS and several step children of the EVES persuasion. So no links to the THOMAS family at all apart from father's name.

Family history tells me (because I am descended both from Annie, and also from her cousin) that George was an employee of the Napier family - scandal!

I don't know if it helps, but in both the 1901 and 1911 censuses, the family name is given as SPENCER. I don't know why they changed it (they changed it back later), but there could just possibly have been "previous" in George's family. It never helped me, but I throw it in as an added fact.

From the same censuses, George was born in Marylebone, but I've not managed (on Ancestry) to find a George and a John together on the 1881 or 1871 censuses.

Thanks.
Stuart

Dea

Dea Report 14 Jan 2009 12:35

Could you give ALL the info from the marriage cert please?

Ages, adresses, occupations, witnesses etc.

Dea x

Stuart

Stuart Report 14 Jan 2009 11:28

I am very very stuck. I have a relative George William Thomas. I have his marriage certificate, so I know that in 1890 his father was called John Thomas, and that he was deceased. I know from census records that George was born around 1868, and I know that the family was in London when he was married (worked in Marylebone, married in Islington). But I can't get beyond that - there are too many (or not good enough) matches to find a birth certificate, and try searching on John Thomas...

Any hints or tips on how I might go about it?