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Claude Pickering Harris circa 1889

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Victoria

Victoria Report 10 Feb 2009 13:16

Hi,

Thankyou for your help on this.

I've been searching Ancestry to see If Ernest became a member on another boat after Moshulu docked in Washington. I know from my research on Moshulu over the weekend that she was laid up so either Ernest stayed in the US or joined another crew. So far nothing.
Is there a particular way to search on Ancestry because I dont seem to be getting very good results.

Thanks in advance

Vicki

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 4 Feb 2009 00:42

yes he was part of crew list

Researching:
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Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 4 Feb 2009 00:31

Yes definitely not transported as a convict in 1926.

The local police may have been appointed his temporary guardians.

Ernest George V HARRIS b. 1910 went to Melbourne in 1926 but no death for him there.

Could be him going to USA. Was he travelling alone?

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2009 22:03

this could also be him

Name: Ernest Ges Laugh Harris
Arrival Date: 28 Jan 1928
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: 1910
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Ship Name: Moshulu
Port of Arrival: Port Angeles, Washington
Port of Departure: Geelang Victoria
Line: 25
Microfilm Roll Number: M1383_133

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

Victoria

Victoria Report 3 Feb 2009 21:37

Thanks Guys,

You have all found some amazing info :-)

Im as sure as I can be that Claude Pickering Harris is the father of my Grandad Reg. My Great Grandmother was the servant for Claude, Ethel and their son Ernest when Claude had his way with their servant (my great grand mother) She told my Grandad who his really father was about 40 years ago - he met with Claude once who did not want too know.

Anyway what im really trying to find out is if there are any living decendants from Ernest - i know its a long shot but I have no idea how to begin?

I have found a record for Ernest migrating to Australia in Jun 1926 and his address was shown as Cheif Constable police station, Salisbury and that Ernest was a Farmer. He was 16 at the time - does this mean he was a criminal and sent to Australia? I thought they had stopped sending criminals to oz way before this?

Thanks So much for your help

Vx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Feb 2009 01:25

?ethel's birth registration

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)

Harris Ethel Mabel E Wincanton 5c 438



Wincanton is on the borders of Dorset and Somerset



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Feb 2009 01:20

so from what Lindsey found on the 1911, he must have married Ethel Mabel E Harris!


Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)

>>>>HARRIS Claude Pickering Salisbury 5a 361
>>>>HARRIS Ethel Mabel E Salisbury 5a 361
JARVIS Thomas Waters Salisbury 5a 361
PARSONS Annie Salisbury 5a 361



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 3 Feb 2009 00:39

Harris Ernest Charles Bath 5c 1089 dec 1887
PICKERING Annie Rose Bath 5c 1089

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Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Feb 2009 23:43

This is all I can see on the 1911
HOUSEHOLD HARRIS CLAUDE NICKERING M 1889 22 Salisbury Wiltshire
HOUSEHOLD HARRIS ETHEL MABEL EMILY F 1888 23 Salisbury Wiltshire
HOUSEHOLD HARRIS ERNEST GEORGE VANGHAM M 1910 1 Salisbury Wiltshire

These name appear individually but unless you get the transcript they may not be together

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2009 23:32

His birth registration

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)

Harris Claude Pickering Alderbury 5a 183


He could have been born anytime from mid-November 1888 to end of March 1889, as parents had 6 weeks in which to register the birth of a babay.


This also means that he was not of full age when he married in 1907, so must have had to have his father's permission.




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2009 23:29

marriage registration from www.freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)

HARRIS Claude Pickering Salisbury 5a 361
HARRIS Ethel Mabel E Salisbury 5a 361
JARVIS Thomas Waters Salisbury 5a 361
PARSONS Annie Salisbury 5a 361



you'll have to try to find out WHO he married!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2009 23:22

Is this the registration for Ernest George Vanghan Harris?

Births Dec 1909 (>99%)

Harris Ernest George V St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 389


Claude would only have been about 20 when this child was born!



when was you grandfather born? Reginald F Smith is very common name!!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2009 23:17

1901 Census

Name: Claude P Harris
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: Ernest C
Mother's Name: Annie R
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: St Thomas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Salisbury
Sub registration district: Salisbury

George Harris 60 Estate Steward & Agent, Clerk ot School Board
Emma M Harris 57
Ernest C Harris 38 Estate Steward's Clerk
Annie R Harris 38 Ernest's wife
Claude P Harris 12
Arthur R Harris 35 Estate Stweard's Clerk
Sarah A Harris 32 Arthur's wife


Address:- 3 Castle St, St Thomas



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Feb 2009 23:13

Name: Claude Pickering Harris MBE
Regiment or Corps: Wiltshire Regiment, IARO attd S & T, Indian Army, Indian Army Reserve of Officers

Antwerp Bungalow ,Winchester RD. Dorset


If you pm me with you email addy I can send you the medal card,image lots of info up to 1922

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Feb 2009 23:11

By the difference in name, I assume you are trying to determine that he was the father of your grandfather who was born illegitimately. Is that correct? A very difficult task, unless you have documentation!

This looks to be him in 1891

1891 Census

Name: Claude P Harris
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ernest C
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: St Edmund
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
Town: Salisbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Alderbury
Sub registration district: Salisbury

Ernest C Harris 28 Solicitor's Clerk
Annie R Harris 28
Claude P Harris 2
Sarah J Jefferies 16 Servant

Address:- 17 Rollestone St



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Victoria

Victoria Report 2 Feb 2009 22:48

Trying to find out some information about Calude Pickering Harris born 1889 in Salisbury - He is said to be the Father of my Grandfather Reginald Frank Smith. I have discovered he had another son Ernest George Vangham Harris born 1910 in the London Area and would dearly love to find anyone with a link

Many Thanks

Vicki