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I have a marriage certificate dated 1908
george thomas davies
age 45 widower
profession engine driver ( i presume colliery )
living Cymmer, Porth Pontypridd
Father Henry Davies deceased profession stonemason
married to Elizabeth smith.
Where do I go from here I cannot find a census with a george and father henry. They might not even have come from Pontypridd

try looking for Goerge in the 1901 census b.1863, but with a different spouse.
this site will help deicpher Welsh towns & parishes
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/

look in the Mountain Ash area

if it does happen to be in that area I have CD of St Margaret's Mountain Ash 1859-1933 and St John's Miskin 1910-1935
and Glamorgan marriages 1569-1837 so could do some look ups

I would go right back to 1871 census and look for Henry, a stonemason with a son George, then try to follow them forward.
Of course Henry could have changed his job, ...but you might find a similar type of occupation.

If only we could look at 1911 census, it might help us all with our DAVIES families.

Gwyn

Thankyou for all your replies I am really grateful.
1901 I have found a george born cardiff living in neath with his mother-in-law Mary Phillips he is a railway engine driver BUT I cannot find a marriage for him to a miss phillips

1871 I have found a george with father henry who is a carpenter but on the next census george becomes george henry

George dies 1909 and his 2nd wife remarries the next year
Thats love !!!

this could be the first marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
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DAVIES George Henry Bedwelty 11a 126
FOX Owen Bedwelty 11a 126
Mainwaring Mary Jane Bedwelty 11a 126
PHILLIPS Ellen Jane Bedwelty 11a 126

on the 1871 census and 1881 where was George living?

This was the only 1 I could find with a father Henry

1871 Wales Census
about George Davies
Name: George Davies
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address:



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Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 14b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Davies 25
Margaret Davies 30
George Davies 3
Thomas Davies 1
William Davies 6 months

thankyou
I dont think the marriages are mine you have george henry I need george thomas
Thankyou again for your assistance I am really pulling my hair out now I just don't know where to turn I just cannot find george with father henry apart from the one above and I'm sure that the george in that census becomes george henry in 1881 aarrrrggghhh

this might be the first marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Davies Edmund Cardiff 11a 386
Davies George Cardiff 11a 386
Edwards Sidonia Cardiff 11a 386
Phillips Mary Cardiff 11a 386

location fits with Cardiff connection of mother in law

Just having a quick glance before going to work
there is a george and mary on the 1891 living in maesteg and he born neath

Also seen an edmund and sedonia living in Tongwyalais, Glamorgan, Wales in 1891

Having another thought he remarried 1908 he had a daughter 1909 who he names Mary Anne would it be too weired to name a child after your dead wife
he dies later that year


jayne

Have you tried following the addresses and marriage witnesses? - they can often help to connect.

What are ALL the details from the marriage cert - ages, occupations, fathers, witnesses etc?

Dea x

The witness names were william watkins and margaret jane watkins
I have found them in 1901 living in pontypridd william is a coal miner

I have given all the details of the marriage certificate in my fist message

sorry I haven't answered before now as I was at work

jayne