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hello im james jones son of james savage jones 1935 -2005 born in cockermouth cumbria whose father was george henry jones 1910-1989 gravesend whose parents were george methias jones born in poplar kent 1886-1964 buried in gravesend kent and ellen louisa jones(born in ashford 1888) who were married in dover 1908.george methias"s parents were a henry and mary jones .can anyone tell me how to find more on henry and mary to help me continue my family tree? thanks james

Well, I guess you have been going backwards using certificates?

Do you have the birth cert of George Methias? I cant see a child with that name nor a marriage with that name?Nor have I heard of a place called Poplar in Kent. Have you been backing up your research with certs and census?

The marriage in Dover in 1908 - how do you know the wifes first names? I assume she wasnt a Jones aswell? This is the only Dover marriage I can see

Marriages Dec 1908
COLLINS Ellen Dover 2a 2320
JONES George Dover 2a 2320

You get birth, marriage and death refs from freebmd.org and then use the ref to buy the cert for £7 from GRO online.

Can you tell us where you got the names and dates from please.

Do you think this could be them?


1891 England Census
about George Jones
Name: George Jones
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henery
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Beckenham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Beckenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Beckenham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bromley
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henery Jones 39 b Wallington, Oxfordshire, carpenter
Mary A Jones 42 b Dorchester
William Jones 14 b Winchurch, Middlesex
Louie Jones 11 daughter, b Beckenham
George Jones 5

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No scrap this. George becomes Henry G in the 1901.

Do you have a subscription to Genes reunited or Ancestry.co.uk so that you can look at census records??

You can search 1881 census and some parish records for free on www.familysearch.org

births marriages and deaths http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

you may need to order certificates which you do here http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

certifcates should have parents names on and occupation of father also ages.

First find the family in 1901 this will tell you when and where henry ad MAry were born. The work back to 1881 etc, you should be able to find their marrige so you can get Mary's maiden name.

Make sure you document everything making note of where you found data.

it is a district but as far as i'm aware it's not in kent, it's middlesex or somewhere around there

London Boroughs and Parishes

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/LND/parishes.html#lcc

Poplar is Middlesex
It's the Docklands area, Isle of Dogs ie East End

need to look him up in census to find out where he was born Middlesex or Kent

look at your other threads

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1127771

and 1129525

hello everybody who replied to my thread last night,i have an apology to make. sorry all ive got a bit mixed up with some of my info. my greatgrandfather george methias"s father was called edward jones not henry! but his wife was a mary jones. i have no DOBs for edward or mary and it was these dates i was after help with.George methias was born in poplar middlesex.estimated birthdate (1886 - 1889) on his gravestone it either says he died aged 75 or 78.i have got these facts from relatives of mine and from some of your kind selves replying to my threads. sorry to have wasted anyones time and i hope you all still help me
regards an embarrased james!

Births Jun 1889
Jones George Matthias Poplar 1c 596


Tracey x

Buy the birth cert and you will have his parents. Then you can look up their marriage on freebmd.org and buy the marriage cert and work backwards that way through certs and census.