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jansmith Report 2 Aug 2013 19:04

Has info been "done" on this lady? interesting middle name

Dora Leslie Macleod

Birth Date:
abt 1881


Port of Departure:
La Plata, Argentina

Arrival Date:
4 May 1939

Port of Arrival:
London, England

Ports of Voyage:
La Plata
[Rio de Janeiro]

Ship Name:
Highland Patriot


Renes Report 23 Jul 2013 17:16

Just deleted my response

As it seems that answered was ticked in error .

No idea how ....

Sorry everyone

Irene ......

Edit ... I cannot even see the answered option

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Jul 2013 14:58


If you can do Item 2, please. Going through the 1911 census of all those in Seaforth Highlanders in India and checking to see if there any girls (some wives and children are with the men) of the right age who might be Diane - I wouldn't worry if surname isn't Macleod or christian name isn't Diane, but a list of possibles would be good, if only to rule them out!


Renes Report 23 Jul 2013 13:20

Annie and Cyns

I offered to do census look ups and went to the list on 102 ... noting that no 11 you are doing/done Ann

I expect it is me being thick .... but whom/ what am I looking for on the censuses please

Just give me a number please

Here's the list i think you are talking about

1 Although there appears to have originally some doubts in the thread about whether the 1Bn Seaforths were in India at the time of Diane’s birth, they were there in 1908 as men of that battalion were awarded the 1908 India General Service Medal ( page 102*)

2 They were also in India on the 1911 census which also lists women and children in the barracks (page 28)*

3 Various suggestions of men in the 1Bn Seaforth Highlanders have been put forward as possibilities, both men named Robert MacLeod/McLeod and Robert Leslie including men who were killed in WW1 -not officers, though, men with WW1 Medal cards, men with service records on Ancestry for WW1 – not officers - and London Gazette entries (See pages 1, 2, 16, 56, 62, 65, 66, 96 )*

4 Medal records for men named Robert McLeod/Macleod prior to WW1 have been searched (pages 83, 98, 102)*.

5 Some passenger list entries have been mentioned (pages 50,93, 102)*

6 Some census entries have been suggested (pages 2, 25,91,)* and an electoral roll entry (page 92*)

7 Pre WW1 service records have been searched (pages 46)*
Suggestions for pre WW1 officers (page 25,82)*

8 Army marriages have been searched (page 65) and Army births (page 47)*

9 Some findings on officers of the Indian Army, although of course the Seaforth Highlanders were British Army who just happened to be serving in India (pages 14, 99, 102)*

10 Findings on Scotland People in War Returns (page 14)*

11 I did some searching (in 2009!) of the Army Lists which I sent by pm to Evelyn
Had a look at some Army Lists today. Quite time consuming, so couldn't look at many*


or Am I at the WRONG list ..... :-D :-D


Cynthia Report 23 Jul 2013 11:52

You lot ARE wonderful! Thanks so much.

If you could just keep an eye on any suggestions that come through which require a census search, that would take a big weight off my shoulders.

I seem to be good at obscure searches rather than the straightforward stuff!! :-D

Thank you again...... <3

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 22 Jul 2013 23:28



Renes Report 22 Jul 2013 22:42

Ok Ann

Will look tomorrow - and list what I am going to check


was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 22 Jul 2013 22:02

My military summary is on page 102. There are various things to be checked (items marked *). so it would be great if you could help with that


Renes Report 22 Jul 2013 20:36

Sorry Cyns ...I did realise Viv could not do Census lookups now

Have both ANC and FMP - happy to look - what wants looking for



jansmith Report 22 Jul 2013 20:15

Cynthia I have sub for Anc. so do you know of any look ups at the moment?


Cynthia Report 22 Jul 2013 16:56

Not to worry......I think we are all used to these setback by now aren't we? :-D

Viv has had a word with me to say that she is still not back to full strength yet and her concentration levels aren't good... :-(

So, it looks as though we need any of you who are good with census look ups :-S


Traciey Report 21 Jul 2013 21:51

Ah silly me noticed it was bridegroom's friend!


wisechild Report 21 Jul 2013 15:36

Think we can pretty well discount the family from my last post.
Sophia says she was born in Calcutta, but on a previous census, says it was Jersey. Wasn´t there a Goddard Fenwick link with Jersey?
Anyway, the name changes so often it´s impossible to keep up & can´t find Carlos anywhere except to say that he was a widower when he married Sophia. His 1st wife who he married in 1883 died in 1885.
He was an MD & was born in Peru. (Dont think he was related to Paddington Bear though) :-D


Cynthia Report 21 Jul 2013 15:32

Nah...................hundred's of F/Frank Pratt deaths between 1930-1950.

We've more coincidences on this thread than grain of sand on a beach - at least, that what it feels like!

And yes Traciey, I sometimes feel that the missing piece is staring us in the face!


Cynthia Report 21 Jul 2013 15:26

I have knocked at FBG's door but no reply as yet. Mind you, she only gets up when it's dark!!!

Evelyn has been in touch and asked me to pass on her grateful thanks for sticking with this search. She does read the postings but is no longer a member here as she has no one else to research.

Don't worry Evelyn, we will keep flying the flag for you... :-D

As for the witness at Diane's wedding, Evelyn is pretty sure that F. Pratt was a male friend of her father's and that he was possibly called Frank and died young. I'll check freebmd to see........



wisechild Report 21 Jul 2013 13:47

It would appear that this Donald mMacleod was s/o Roderick & Kate, but can´t see an Isabella in the family, although going back through the censuses, Kate appears to have had a sister Isabella, so it´s not unlikely that she named a daughter after her.

This one is really odd, but you probably need to look at it to see why.
1911 census, living at 78 Mallinson Road Battersea.
Sophia Leslie widow b c 1867 Calcutta India
Laurie Leslie 33
Leah Leslie (Laurie´s wife)
Sophia died Dec 1929 at 3 Walnut Walk. Her will says she was a single woman,not a widow.
Going back to the 1881 we have
Carlos Leslie De Vine b S America
Sophia De Vine b Calcutta
Viscount Ap De Vine b Calcutta
Lord De Vine b Channel Islands

All the links to the family vary from Devine to Leslie.
Son Laurie was a theatrical artist ? scenepainter??
There appears to have been two other sons, John Leslie (poss Lord De Vine) & Granville Leslie.......can´t find any trace of him.
Think Sophia´s maiden name was John.
Carlos appears variously as Carlos & Charles & seems to have been a physician.
He died 1905 in Worthing.
There are some WW1 service records for Laurie Leslie, but I haven´t looked at them.
Anybody up for a challenge?


Traciey Report 21 Jul 2013 12:50

Jansmith I remember coming across that particular Robert MacLeod 2nd Leut, its a medical card and I have it saved somewhere and I'm sure it said captain on it too. If anyone wants it I can email in pdf.

I am no further forward with 1911 census, nothing of significance anyway but I continue to check through them.

The Goddard-Fenwicks were connected to Devon too were they not staying there at one time? So were Kathleen McDowall's parents or grandparents in Devon from Scotland. One of the older generation of Goddard-Fenwicks maybe just a Fenwick if my memory serves me correctly was that he was in the Navy, so was Kathleen's grandfather in the Navy. So the connections or coincidences keep coming.

We have Devon connections, Navy connections, nurse/hospital connections and not forgetting ministery/nunnery connections between the neighbours of Evelyn Goddard-Fenwickand and Patrick MacLeod.

I need to learn to concentrate on the one area but it is so hard not to drift off into another search especially with all the coincidences.

Where is the missing piece of jigsaw, I feel as if its staring me in the face!


Cynthia Report 21 Jul 2013 09:50

Aaaahhhhhh kippers for breakfast!!!

Not necessarily red herrings at all - any of them.

The name 'Leslie' obviously had great significance so, yes, she may well have been born and registered with that name wisechild.

Any takers to check that please?

Kathy - you have done a fantastic job ploughing through the census but, because I struggle with census returns, I will knock on the Welsh bat's belfry door and see if she can spot anything.

Many thanks, both of you. :-D :-D


wisechild Report 20 Jul 2013 16:01

Another red herring for you.
1911 census
Donald Macleod Aged 27
Ist batt Seaport Highlanders (?Seaforth)
In India.
B Locks, Ross .

Kathy near the

Kathy near the Report 20 Jul 2013 15:00

This is probably a BIG RED HERRING however

Having trawled through 1911 census for a family with any surname but needed a mother called Catherine /Kate with children Donald and Isabel /Isabella I only found one

1911 lochs rd 87 ed4 page 4 Laxay
Catherine McKenzie head 45 w home spun tweed lochs
Christina " dau 13 scholar "
Donald " son 11 " "
Barbra " dau 9 " "
Isabella " dau 7 " "

1901 lochs rd87 ed 4 page 13 lochs

Malcolm McKenzie head mar 38 crofter lochs
Catherine " wife mar 34 "
Ann " dau 4 "
Christy " dau 3 "
Donald " son 2 "
Isabella " mother w 82 "

Marriage 13 March 1894 Lochs entry5

Malcolm McKenzie 31 bachelor Fisherman
f Donald McKenzie crofter
m Isabella " ms Smith
Cate McMillan spinster 27 dom ser
f Duncan McMillan crofter
m Christina " ms Nicolson ( dec )
witnesses Duncan McMillan and Malcolm Mcleod

IGI for McMillan family shows that Catherine had several sisters so I checked them out

Sister Louisa b21 Oct 1870 married1899

Wick entry 32
25 Aug 1899
John McLeod bachelor 30 fisherman
f Kenneth McLeod fisherman
m Mary " ms McMillan
Louisa McMillan spinster 27 dom serv
f Duncan McMillan crofter ( dec )
m Christina " ms Nicolson (dec )
witnesses Christy McLeod and John McMillan

states couple are second cousins .

Over to all of you
from census I can't find a Robert McLeod being a brother to John but I am probably missing the obvious .

I found that Catherine McKenzie died in 1946 so she def not the lady over 100.