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can sombody please help me i have been having real trouble trying to find a george bell brn abt 1905 when he married in apr 1930 to a louisa matilda florey the were living at 23 arnold place bermondsey london by the time the 3rd child john was born they were living at 13 winchelsea buildings rotherhithe london. I have recently found out that george was also know as either henry george or george henry but dropped henry. george occupation in 1940 was council road labourer his father henry was deceased in 1930 (poss ww2) but george and family were evacuated to chatteris in cambridgeshire which is wher he died some time before 1975. can anybody help me i just need to find that first part ie george parents

If he was born in the London area could this be his birth:-

Name: George Henry Bell
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lewisham
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1142

You could order the certificate but use the reference checking page and stipulate that you only want the certificate if the father's name is Henry.

Kath. x

If you think Henry may have been killed in WW2, his details should be on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website.
Liz

Henry could not have died in WW2 as you say he was deceased by 1930 and WW2 had no where near started by then !!

Dea x

thanks kathleen
i will try that and thank you for the note ww2 that was something i had told but i forgot that minor detail ofthe date.

george occupatin at marriage was gen labourer and his father was a labourer but because bell is such a common name im going on what i have at hand. and what i have in knowledge all i know was that my father in law was that they were from millwall (bermondsey) london but he cant remember any aunts or uncles.

that george henry bell died in the same year a 0 age thanks

thanks for the last george but both millwall and bermondsey are in se london as that is where millwall fc orginally come from. but i will look in ti the greenwich one thanks

I know where Millwall & Bermondsey are funny enough as i come from & live in London & like i said they are on different sides of the Thames, maybe you should look at a map as Millwall comes under E14 & Bermondsey SE1

sorry if i upset you but thats all i have been told by a family of non helpful people.

Have you tried to find him in the 1911 census?

Jill

yes i have but nothing

i now have his death 4q 1970 in southwark after the family now telling me he died in london and not cambridge his birth was 5/4/1904 thats all i have at the moment

This is the nearest birth i can see to fit with everything you have said

Looks like it wasn't needed

Never take family legend as gospel - yes Mill Wall and Bermondsey are across the water from each other though they have always been closely related socially. My father born Bermondsey was a Millwall supporter - it was just a matter of walking through the tunnel under the river.

I think its highly unlikely a grown man of 35 would be evacuated during WW2, possibly his children would.

Nichola as you seem to have been given so much erroneous info from family - can you explain who this chap is so that we can advise how to work backwards from solid facts.

the george bell was my father in laws father all the info i have are he died before 1975 in se london and after a long search have found a death for a george bell 4q 1970 southwark which would tie in. on his marriage cert it said that when he married in 1930 to louisa florey he was 25 so going on that i presum that the death i found to be correct as he dob was 5/4/1904 but cant be sure as cant find his birth. when he married the was living at 23 arnold place bermondsey and when my father in law was born the lived at 13 winchelsea building rotherhithe and on sunday my father in law told me that when he died thay lived in jamaica road bermondsey. the family we sent to chatteris in cambridgeshire in the war. he had various jobs in 1930 he was a gen lab and in 1940 he was a council road labourer. my father in law seems to think that somebody in his family was on the railways a kings cross. hope this is any hel[ as this is all i have to go on i have tried the 1911 census but nothing comes up

Marriages Jun 1930 (94%)
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Bell George Florey St.Olave 1d 390
Florey Louisa M Bell St. Olave 1d 390


The district St.Olave is an alternative name for Bermondsey and it is in the county of London


there is this birth

Births Dec 1905 (>99%)
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Bell George Henry Lewisham 1d 1142


The district Lewisham spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, Kent and London

that george died in the same year but so far i have a george in fulham and also one in greenwich i have now ordered death cert

I take it you don't want the one i put on so shall delete it