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would like any information on an arthur edwards mexborough/swinton area please
information so far my father in law is called alan edwards born 25/05/1945 in swnton mother edith mary edwards formerly cresswell dad charles edwards
ave just got there marriage cert -2 oct 1943 they was married in mexborough he lived at 4 walker st swinton father name arthur edwards PROFESSION --- hand (dont know what it says)
dad to edith may cresswell lived at 82 doncaster rd father curtis edwards cresswell profession miner thaks louise .

Does it say how old they were when they married in 1943, lou?

yah sorry they was both 21 thanks x

So this looks like Edith. The easy one.

Births Sep 1922
Cresswell Edith M Bates Doncaster 9c 1452

http://www.freebmd.org.uk - click on the red Search

You need to give it a try yourself, of course.

Look for the birth of Edith M Cresswell, 1920-1924 for good measure.

Like I said, she's probably the easy one.

Your blasted Arthur couldn't have a middle name, could he then?

The field is huge, even narrowing the search to 1921-1923 (I always allow for a little fudging by the parties.)

You may be one of those people who has to order a dozen certificates ...
I don't know the geography. Can you spot a likely candidate in the list?

thanks for that has we didnt know her date of birth thank you xx

thanks for your kind help i keep plodding on thankyou xx lou xx

And now I feel just a little stupid.

Arthur Edwards born c1921 is deceased?

His death certificate might be a little help. Like, it might give a date of birth. ;)

Do you know when and where he died? If it was after 1984 and you don't have access to Ancestry, the record can be fetched in a jiffy, if you do know that.

If you know but it was before 1984, it wouldn't take much longer.

If you don't know ... back to needle, haystack.

I'm completely confused, aren't I?

It's the run-on sentences. It isn't me. I'm sure it isn't me. ;)

Edith Mary Cresswell
married
Charles Edwards
1943

both born 1922ish

It is the father of Charles Edwards you are looking for.

But it is the *birth* of *Charles* Edwards c 1922 we are looking for. Not Arthur Edwards. You must be as confused as me.

We want that birth (Charles) to find both parents' names, to look for a marriage.

So it's the birth of *Charles* Edwards born c1922 we are looking for -- and his death, assuming he is deceased.

I'm really not on form today, you have to forgive me.


Here's our first candidate.

For the birth, the mother's surname is in brackets.
For the marriage, the other spouse's surname is in brackets.


Births Jun 1922
Edwards Charles (Spencer) Doncaster 9c 1508


Marriages Sep 1918
Edwards Arthur (Spencer) Rotherham 9c 1267
Spencer Florence (Edwards) Rotherham 9c 1267


Swinton is in Rotherham district.

yes its arthur edwards am looking for i put all information i have from the mar cert as cant find the birth cert of charles either and used my crididts up thnks louisex

That's the only good candidate I see, really, but like I said, I don't know the geography (or family geography history).


Do any of these names mean anything to you? They are all born to parents named Edwards and Spencer.

Births Mar 1919
Edwards John W Spencer Rotherham 9c 1108

Births Jun 1920
Edwards Arthur Spencer Rotherham 9c 1700

Births Jun 1922
Edwards Charles Spencer Doncaster 9c 1508

Births Sep 1924
Edwards Maree Spencer Rotherham 9c 1336

Births Mar 1927
Edwards Margaret Spencer Rotherham 9c 1264

Births Mar 1930
Edwards Olga J S Spencer Doncaster 9c 1233


I just picked out the Doncaster and Rotherham ones.

There doesn't really seem to be another Edwards-Spencer marriage in the vicinity that would account for any of those births - but like I said, I don't know the geography.

Oh, lou lou lou!


Never, *never* ever ever use credits, here or anywhere else, to look for births marriages and deaths.

FreeBMD is what it says -- free.

Now it doesn't go up much past the 1920s as yet, and it's still spotty in the 20s, but it is getting there and will have it all before too very long. I was talking to another GR member today who is transcribing part of 1935.

Just go where I said:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Click the red Search on the first page.

Then do what I've been doing.

Search for, say

-births-
surname EDWARDS
given name CHARLES
dates 1921 to 1923

Then just look down the results list and see whether anything looks good to you.

thanks think swinton near doncaster or kilnhurst his mam said so going to visit graves to see if eny edwards in there a long shot but could be ther as they lived in swinton x thanks x

So the question -- do you know: is Charles deceased? If so, do you know where and when he died? Even approximately.

Crossed in the post.

But any idea when? That's the big question.

sorry husband cant remember him at all and my hubbie 39 trying to get his dad on phone for any think else xx

thnks for that freebmd i look on there yah its hard trying to find a needle in a hay stack am really grateful for your help ave just got to nip out to pick daughter up from her friends be back in ten mins thanks for your help have got a photo of g/grandad edwards walking up the path with his grandaughter kathleen he looks in his 70 so now i thinking his son (grandad arthur) may have died and thats why he there and not her dad also could do with finding out year she married as well eh louise

This Kathleen Edwards by any chance?


Name: Kathleen Edwards
>>> Mother's Maiden Surname: Spencer
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1939
Registration district: Rother V
Registration county: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1071


I'm still very confused. Is "granddad Edwards" Arthur?

No, the granddad Edwards you're talking about in the picture with Kathleen is Arthur's father.

So that makes Kathleen Arthur's daughter?

If that's the case, and if Kathleen was born quite a while after Arthur married, I may just be on the right track. Because the mother of that Kathleen Edwards born 1939 was >> Spencer.


(That birth record is from Ancestry, which has all births 1916 to 1984. If you're wanting to spend money, a subscription there is a much better idea than buying credits.)

right me too getting mixed up now i start from begining as just found out he had a daughter called kathkleen as well as a gandaughter so here goes i start with my husband ( darren)dad

mam edith may cresswell
alan edwards born 1945 = dad charles edwards born
1922
(these of marr cert 2 oct 1943 mexborough)

grandad aruthur edwards
spoke to his mam that wedding photo was his daughter kathleen and she married in 1958 in september ish she thinks he died when she was 20 0r 22 so that year would ave been 1965/67 am checking that cite you gave me thanks for your help and information and taking the time thank you xx