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Thanks Viv, K and Barbara.

Barbara thankyou soo much for that.

it seems that Viv may be right with Averilda in an institution then as Emily the housekeeper is still there.

Viv I think you have just cracked her death, that is certainly the right age for her would explain a housekeeper for the boys.


Thanks both of you for looking for me as I would have been there for ever with it

This looks like same family in 1911--but still no Averilda

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
WILLIAMS, EDWIN HEAD MARRIED 30 M 51 PEDLER SMALLWARES PARISH OF WOODHOUSE HANDWORTH STAFFS
WILLIAMS, ALBERT SON SINGLE M 20 PONY DRIVER UNDERGROUND COUNTY OF DURHAM
WILLIAMS, FRED BOARDER SINGLE M 37 MINER COAL HEWER UNDERGROUND WOODHOUSE YORKS
LIDSTER, EMIL BOARDER WIDOW F 55 YELLING HUNTINGDONSHIRE

WILLIAMS EDWIN (RG14PN28076 RG78PN1604 RD511 SD3 ED3 SN102)
Address 32 ARTHUR ST THORNHILL ROTHERHAM County Yorkshire West Riding
District Rotherham Subdistrict North West Rotherham
Enumeration District 3 Parish Rotherham

K could be and it would explain Averilda in the area near family.

The boys are right on the census and as they lived at Sunny Brow in 1891 it makes it right for the youngest son who was born there.
It definately says Edwin mind and makes him 2 yrs older than I have for Edward which is strange.

Edit that there is only a yr diff which is not strange

Agree with Viv - Edward was listed as married in 1901

A possible death for averilda if she was ill after the birth of the last child and put in an institution?

Deaths Sep 1935 (91%)
Williams Averilda 72 Sheffield 9c 486

this one would have been born in about 1863

I did come across this birth and death and wondered whether this could be their child from FreeBMD
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
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Williams Averilda Ecclesall B. 9c 428

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Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Williams Averilda 0 Ecclesall B. 9c 245

K thanks it does look like it may be them just very badly transcribed lol no wonder I couldn't find them !

Maybe she was visiting family in Yorkshire but her name didn't come up she was originally a Staton

Ahhh now thats the right place he was born Newfield Durham will go and have a look , I take it Averilda must have died then

Thankyou so much

Dont know where Averilda is though as edwin/edward says he is married.
coal miner
Emily is a housekeeper????
and on the image I think the P after Stephen is a S in copperplate

Could this be the family

Name: Edwin William
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Houghton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darfield All Saints
Town: Great Houghton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin William 40 Married Coal Miner
Emily Lidster 43 Servant
Seclin M William 14
Stephen P William 11
Albert William 9

I think this the family
bad transcrition again!


1901 England Census
about Stephen P William
Name: Stephen P William
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edwin
Gender: Male
Where born: Newfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Great Houghton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darfield All Saints
Town: Great Houghton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin William 40
Emily Lidster 43
Seclin M William 14
Stephen P William 11
Albert William 9

I have lost a whole family in 1901 can anyone find them please ?

Edward Williams b 1862 Handsworth? Woodhouse, Yorkshire
Averilda Williams b 1863 Handsworth Yorkshire
children
Emma Williams 1883 Handsworth Yorkshire
Elizabeth Williams 1885 Handsworth Yorkshire
Sebin Mills Williams 1887 Handsworth Yorkshire
Stephen Staton Williams 1889 Aukland Durham

In 1891 they were in Durham and Sebin was transcribed as Selin M.
But I can't find them after that, there is a possible marriage in Sheffield of a Stephen S Williams in 1914. But I can't find anything else nor a death for Averilda.

Thanks