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Maurice
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10 Apr 2009 16:33 |
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Trying to find info on birth/family of Evelyn PARKER who married George David RUDD 18/12/1920 at Leicester, then (using surname RUDD) Alfred George EDMONDSON 29/3/1958 also at Leicester.
Evelyn's age was given as 27 in 1920 and 61 in 1958, which doesn't help. Her father, Thomas, was a coal miner. There are a couple of candidates in the 1901 census, but I'm hoping that someone out there can claim her and give me more definite information.
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Choccy
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10 Apr 2009 16:54 |
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Births Jun 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parker Evelyn Rosa Leicester 7a 251
If above is correct -
1901 England Census Name: Evelyn R Parker Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frank Edward Mother's Name: Rosa Gender: Female Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly Belgrave Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: North East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Frank Edward Parker 36 Rosa Parker 35 Emily Parker 15 Edith Ellen Parker 14 Kathleen G Parker 10 Florence M Parker 8 Evelyn R Parker 6 Vera A Parker 5 Thomas C E Parker 3 Ruby Frances Parker 1 James Baden Parker 6 months
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Choccy
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10 Apr 2009 16:58 |
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Sorry Maurice, on 1901 census Frank is definitely not a coal miner. He is not a coal miner on the 1891 census either.
Will have another look.
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Maurice
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10 Apr 2009 17:00 |
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Sorry, forgot to put in that Evelyn's father's name was Thomas. Shouldn't be doing this at 3.30am
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Choccy
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10 Apr 2009 17:04 |
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You're obviously on the other side of the world?
Still looking.
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Astra
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10 Apr 2009 17:13 |
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Cannot locate the Rudd/Parker marriage in 1920. Can you re-confirm what you know.
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10 Apr 2009 17:31 |
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Astra -
found this ?
1891 England Census Name: George David Rudd Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George David Rudd 25 Ellen Rudd 24 Annie Rudd 5
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10 Apr 2009 17:35 |
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Found him there just couldn't locate the marriage. Can't find an Evelyn with a father called Thomas in Leicester so she must have been born somewhere else..............but then why would she marry in Leicester...........unless of course she had no surviving family. I wonder if Evelyn had been married before and Parker wasn't her birth name?
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10 Apr 2009 17:41 |
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If they didn't marry until 1920 there would have been a big age difference between George and Evelyn. Think something wrong somewhere, or we are both 'missing it'. Can't now find George David Rudd in 1901.
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10 Apr 2009 18:01 |
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Found a tree on Ancestry site with Alfred George Edmondson (born 1890 in Newbiggin, Westmoreland) married to Evelyn Parker (born 1897 in Newhall, Derbyshire). Alfred has a second wife Elizabeth Richardson (born in 1889 in Westmoreland). They had a son Maurice born 1912, died 2001. Don't understand how Evelyn Parker, the first wife, could have married Alfred in 1958 unless ancestry tree totally wrong, or I am misunderstanding it.
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10 Apr 2009 18:09 |
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Was going to give up on this for a while BUT have now found this marriage -
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edmondson Alfred George E. Ward 10b 1061 Richardson Elizabeth E. Ward 10b 1061
which probably means the Ancestry tree is wrong.
Going to get something to eat now!
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10 Apr 2009 18:13 |
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1901 England Census about Evelyn Parker Name: Evelyn Parker Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Laura M Gender: Female Where born: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Ecclesiastical parish: Newhall St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Burton upon Trent Sub registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 96 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Parker 31 Laura M Parker 29 Willoughby Parker 10 Florrie Parker 7 Evelyn Parker 2 Harry Parker 6 months View Original Record
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10 Apr 2009 18:13 |
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Thomas on this is a coal miner.
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10 Apr 2009 18:18 |
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Don't know if this is the same guy:
Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%) DENT Matthew C Potter E. Ward 10b 1030 Scan available - click to view Edmondson Alfred G Wilson E.Ward 10b 1030 Scan available - click to view>>>>>> Potter Mabel B Dent E.Ward 10b 1030 Scan available - click to view Wilson Margaret Edmondson E. Ward 10b 1030 Scan available - click to view
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10 Apr 2009 18:22 |
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looks like the Newhall, Derbyshire is correct then.
Had another look at the Ancestry tree and just think first wife is 'in the wrong place'. Unfortunately no dates given for marriages.
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10 Apr 2009 18:25 |
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Have found the Evelyn Rudd - Alfred George Edmondson marriage on the full index:
J-M 1958 Leicester 3a 1967
Still can't find the Evelyn Parker - Rudd marriage.
Alfred Edmondson was a busy bloke wasn't he!
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Maurice
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17 Apr 2009 16:08 |
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The facts I have are:
Alfred George EDMONDSON (my grandfather) b. 1890 Newbiggin, Westmorland, married Elizabeth RICHARDSON (grandmother) in Mar Qtr 1910. Elizabeth died in Mar Qtr 1922.
Alfred (32, widower) then married a Mary WILSON (36, spinster) in March 1923. Both were living in Dufton, Westmorland. Don't know when Margaret died, except that it was after 1953 and I think they were living in Leicestershire then. I have a vague memory of visiting them once.
On 29 March 1958, in Leicester, Alfred married Evelyn RUDD, (according to certificate), widow, father listed as Thomas PARKER, coal miner, deceased. Alfred's age given as 67, Evelyn as 61. Evelyn's profession given as shoe storeroom assistant.
On 18 December 1920, Evelyn PARKER (spinster) married George David RUDD (widower) in Leceister. Evelyn's age is given as 27, George's as 50. George's profession given as shoe finisher, Evelyn's as shoe storeroom/stockroom worker. George's father David RUDD, shoe machine operator, deceased. Evelyn's father Thomas PARKER, coal miner.
It would be logical to assume that the Evelyn PARKER who married George RUDD is the same person who married my grandfather Alfred EDMONDSON.
To recap, Alfred EDMONDSON married:
Elizabeth RICHARDSON 1910 Margaret WILSON 1920 Evelyn RUDD (Parker) 1958
I have been assured that by someone who has done extensive research into the PARKER family of Newhall, Derbyshire, that the Evelyn who married my grandfather and George RUDD was not part of that family. I am beginning to think that she was born in Yorkshire. I would appreciate any thoughts on that.
Wilma: the Maurice b.1912 d.2001 was my father.
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18 Apr 2009 15:06 |
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Maurice,
Have had another look and found this one where Thomas is a coal miner, moved from Derbyshire to Leicestershire.
1901 England Census Name: Thomas Parker Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Hugglescote and Donington Ecclesiastical parish: Hugglescote and Donington St John the Baptist Town: Hugglescote County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Ashby De-la-Zouch Sub registration district: Whitwick ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Parker 46 Sarah Draper 34 William Parker 11 Daniel Parker 9 Frank Parker 7 Eveline Parker 5 Eveline (could be Evelyn).
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