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SylviaInCanada
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1 May 2009 05:50 |
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Of course she was Mrs Jane Walker
that's a very valid use ...... although it did use to be used only for a widow.
While her husband was alive she was referred to as Mrs xxxxx Walker. As soon as he died, she became Mrs Jane Walker
These days ............. that rule is ignored
I often get letters addressed to Mrs Sylvia xxxxxx
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EvieBeavie
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1 May 2009 05:45 |
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The Willans with whom Isabella is staying:
EDWARD WILLAN Christening: 09 SEP 1832 Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England Father: WILLIAM WILLAN Mother: SUSANNA Batch No.: C055441
Which doesn't exactly make him 20 in 1841, but maybe he was christened late.
Kirkby Lonsdale marriages are here: M055441 but there are no Walker or Willan marriages.
Aha!
1851
Name: Robert Walker Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane >>> Where born: Shap, Westmorland, England
Name: Jane Walker Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Robert Where born: Soulby, Westmorland, England Civil Parish: Kirkby Stephen Town: Kirkby Stephen County/Island: Westmorland
Robert Walker 58 - Innkeeper Jane Walker 48 John Walker 16 Hannah Walker 22 Isabella Walker 13 Mary Buckle 14
Some evidence to support the marriage in Shap?
But drat. The IGI only has, for Soulby:
C044311 1813-1875 christenings M044311 1863-1872 marriages
so we can't look for Jane's birth.
This mixed bag batch: P002301 has numerous Robert Walkers here and there in the area. One record even has his marriage ... to Mrs. Jane Walker. ;) (Of course she wasn't Mrs. Jane Walker ... unless she had married Jane Walker ...)
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SylviaInCanada
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1 May 2009 05:34 |
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awwwwwwwww
sorry about that Evie!!
it's the first itme I've come across what might be a possibility!!
sylvia
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EvieBeavie
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1 May 2009 05:23 |
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Waaaah!
Cousins for you, cousins for everybody and their cousins, never no cousins for me!!
I'll have to expect my reward in heaven, I suppose. And of course that will happen when its counterpart freezes over. ;)
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SylviaInCanada
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1 May 2009 05:10 |
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If it was Jane Rowlandson
.................. I wonder if there is a connection with my OH's family .... they also came from the Kendal area of Westmorland, and married Rowlandsons over the years.
that would be just too funny
but I haven't traced the Rowlandson family too well yet.
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EvieBeavie
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1 May 2009 04:14 |
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1841?
Name: Isabella Walker Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Gender: Female Where born: Westmorland, England Civil Parish: Kirkby Lonsdale Registration district: Kendal
Isabella Walker 4 John Walmtine 50 John Furness 15 Richard Winstanley 30 William Astin 20 John Dawson 35 George Fisher 20 Joseph Warburton 25 John Pemberton 20 Mary Barrett 75
The birth of a Margaret Walker was registered in Kendal district in June quarter 1841. A year out ... unless the birth was registered when the death was ...
Aha - twins?
MARY JANE WALKER Christening: 12 AUG 1840 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Father: ROBERT WALKER Mother: JANE Batch No.: C067071
A Mary Walker was registered in September quarter 1840 ...
Several people have submitted a marriage of Robert Walker and Jane Rowlandson, Shap, Westmoreland, 1836, to the IGI.
Heeeeere we go. 1841:
Robert Walker 48 --- Inn Keeper Jane Walker 39 Hannah Walker 12 John Walker 6 Mary Walker 8 Mo Margaret Walker 8 Mo
in Kirkby Stephen. Isabella was away because her mother had infant twins to care for?
So I've found everything you already had and could have served up on a platter to help anyone trying to help ...
Hmm. That 1841 household for Isabella made no sense at all. Let's have a closer look.
This is her real household:
William Willan 70 - Publican Susan Willan 60 Edward Willan 20 Susannah Willan 20 Mary Willan 9
The ones Ancestry lists her with are all inn guests, it would seem.
I wonder what the chance is that the innkeepers are her maternal grandparents??
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EvieBeavie
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1 May 2009 03:55 |
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Ah. This Kirkby. It really can help to be clearer.
ISABELLA WALKER Christening: 27 AUG 1837 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Father: ROBERT WALKER Mother: JANE Batch No.: C067071
That batch has a few Walker children around the same time with parents Robert and Jane -- would this be another daughter?
MARGARET WALKER Christening: 12 AUG 1840 Kirkby Stephen, Westmorland, England Death: 12 SEP 1841 Father: ROBERT WALKER Mother: JANE Batch No.: C067071
She died young, but her birth may have been registered.
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EvieBeavie
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1 May 2009 03:50 |
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I can't reproduce your results in 1841 -- there are Walkers in Kirkby This and Kirkby That in Yorkshire, but no household composition as you describe it.
Do you have them in a census?
Did they have no other children after Isabella - so that a birth certificate would yield the mother's name?
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1 May 2009 03:16 |
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robert walker d o b 1791 married to jane d ob 1802 were inkeepers of white swan in kirkby stephen need janes maiden name they had a daughter named isabella d o b 1837
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