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I am trying to find William Cooper 1880.c we think he came from Church Greasley or Castle Greasley near coalville in Leicstershire. He had a son Leslie Cooper 1900c and a son William

Where & what are you trying to find as you don't say

Do you know Leslie's mother's name? Where was Leslie born? Was Leslie's brother William older or younger than him?

Hi
I dont know Lesley Coopers mothers name he was married to Else Knowles his brother William was younger than him I think he was born in Greasley. He was born around 1900

What we need to do is start with what you know is correct and then work backwards.

Is Leslie's name spelt 'Leslie' or 'Lesley '?

Do you know when and where Leslie married Else?

Is Leslie still alive? If not, do you know when and where he died?

Hi
It is spelt Leslie. they are both dead now Leslie Cooper died 1959c
He died at Kirkby-in-Ashfield Nottinghamshire.

Dont know when they were married or where sorry.

thanks

Could Elsie have been registered under a different name but known as Elsie?
Thee is a marriage in Basford (right area) of a Leslie Cooper and Lydia M Knowles in 1917 Jun Q vol 7b page 392

I went throught he complete BMD Index for deaths 1957-1961 inc and the only one I found was
Leslie Cooper died Basford Dec Q 1861 aged 76
This would make him born 1885 and 15 years out from your figure of 1900 seemed unlikely .However I gave it a go and lo and behold

1901 Belvedere Road Woodville Ahby de la Zouch
William H Cooper 42 Coal Miner b Church Greasly Derbys
Emma Ison Cooper 42 wife b Ibstock Leics
LESLIE 16 Miner (Horse Driver) b Church Greasly
Hastings 11 b Ackingtwire? Derbys
Merle 11 B Handsworth Yorks
Daisy 9 b handsworth Yorks
Dot 7 b Handsworth Yorks
Jack 1 B Church Greasly

Now the plot thickens!
In 1891 the family are in Handsworth Yorks as one would expect from the birth details in 1901 census BUT they are all recorded with the surname HEXTALL!
1891 Handsworth Yorks
William Hextall 30 coal miner b Church Greasly
Emma 30 wife b Unstock Leics
Egan 7 b Church Greasly
Lewie (should be Leslie) b5 b Church Greasly
Hastings 3 b Handsworth
Merle 1 b Handsworth

1881 and back to Cooper again
1881 Old Freehold Coopers House Church Gresley
James Cooper 50 Coal Miner b Heather Leics
Charlotte 55 b Carsington Derbys
Louisa 25 Encaustic Tile maker b Church Gresley
WILLIAM HENRY 22 Coal Miner b do
James 20 do do
Herbert 17
Elizabeth 27 all b Church Gresley

James Cooper baptised 30/6/1833 Heather Leics son of James and Elizabeth

1871 Church Gresley
James Cooper 40 Coal Miner b Heather Leics
Charlotte 45 wife b Carsington Derbys
Elizabeth L 17
William H 12
James 9
Herbert 6

William Henry Cooper married Emma Toon 1882 Jun Q Burton on Trent

James Cooper married Charlotte Elliott 1853 Mar Q Ashby de la Zouch
Cant see any explanation for the aberration in names 1891 -whether it was on the part of the enumerator, transcriber or William himself

Another mystery is I cant find the births of the oddly named children Hastings and Merle under Cooper or Hextall

Hi Gillian

The family in Church Greasly sound like them as the information I have is that they are from there. Thanks for the information

Joyce