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help please

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 09:47

can anyone help please i am looking for john clarke born 1846 scarborough ,found in 1861 cens hoping to find him after that with family wife dont know ,son should be arthur born 1868-9 thank you

David

David Report 17 May 2009 09:50

Have you tried variations of clark(e)?

What do you know about Arthur?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 09:52

yes i have tried but only clark thank you david

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 17 May 2009 09:56

Is this the son Arthur?

Do you have his birth cert?

1871 England Census
about Arthur Clark
Name: Arthur Clark
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: Edward
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 430
Household Members: Name Age
John Burnley Clark 64
Julia Hannah Clark 31
Flora Brooks Clark 29
Edward Clark 27
Arthur Clark 2

Edward may not be the father as all the adult children are unmarried.

Christine


David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:00

Births Sep 1868 Scarbro' 9d 322

CLARK Arthur

Births Mar 1869 Scarbro' 9d 331

CLARKE Arthur

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 10:01

thanks christine sadly no ,not if the father was edward ,have not got birth cert only marrage of arthur married 1892 to fanny foster which i know is correct on cert gives his father as john

David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:05

Have you checked his children on earlier census?

1861

Name: John Clarke
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brayton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Scarborough
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age

John Clarke 54
Flora Clarke 19
Edward Clarke 17
John Clarke 15 (Possible Candidate)

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 17 May 2009 10:05

For ref.
1901 England Census
about Arthur Clarke
Name: Arthur Clarke
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England



Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Clarke 33 bricklayers labourer
Fanny Clarke 37
Lilly Clarke 8

What is the occupation given for the father John?

Christine

David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:07

1851

Name: John B Clark
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brayton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Filey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age

John B Clark 44
Tom Clark 15
Mary Ann Clark 13
Julia Hannah Clark 11
Flora Brooks Clark 9
Edward Clark 7
John Clark 5

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 10:09

i have a problem as i dont know how many children john had only that he had a arthur, and that arthur had a child called lilly who married my grandad walter hulme in 1892 not sure where to go from that thanks for your help every one

David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:10

Longshot

Marriages Dec 1867 Scarbro 9d 689

Clark John

BAKER Eliza or
BROADBENT Mary Ann

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 10:11

occupation for john was painter for fannys father was fisherman

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 17 May 2009 10:13

The family that David posted are the same ones as I posted with grandson Arthur.

This could be possible.

1871 England Census
about Arthur Clarke
Name: Arthur Clarke
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Geo
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Giles
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Bootham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3a
Household Members: Name Age
John Geo Clarke 33 occ Baker.
Margaret Clarke 33
Richard Clarke 9
Arthur Clarke 2
Susannah L Clarke 5 weeks

This one isn't correct as occ iswrong.

Christine



David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:23

That seems to cover both the birth certs I mentioned then.

David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:25

1881 that family moved

Name: Susannah Lousia Clarke
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: York St Cuthbert
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Layerthorpe
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Margaret Clarke 46
Richard William Witticar 19
Arthur Clarke 12
Susannah Lousia Clarke 10
John George Clarke 6

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 May 2009 10:32

thanks christine . the one you found in 1901 cens is 100% correct but is there anyway of getting his birth cert as not knowing which arthur he is hope you understand what i mean .

David

David Report 17 May 2009 10:41

I believe that for a £3 extra fee, the GRO will look at the certificate for you to confirm extra details.

Looking at the census info, the one called John George was a Baker and he married Margaret Whitaker. So you want to ask for the cert of the one whose mother wasn't Margaret.

The one named John who may have been the father of Arthur (with Grandfather).

The other Arthur was the one who moved to York and married Louisa.

Marriages Sep 1868 Scarbro' 9d 489

Clarkes John George
Whitaker Margaret

Also you could ask the 3 people who have Arthurs here on GR if they have a birth cert.