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I do not know much about my grandfathers family. He was born in Rochdale, Lancashire march 16 1920. His parents were named William Turner and Sarah ball, according to grandpa's birth certificate they were married. He was also named William, as far as we know (as he would not speak of his family at all) he ran away from home when in his early teens. He had no contact that we know of since, so hense I do not have any other information. His dad William was something to do with the mills, his family owned one we think. They were scottish, the Turners, the Balls were irish. Other then what I tell you I have know idea what is what, I wish I did.

This is a start.

Name: William Turner
Mother's Maiden Surname: Ball
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1916
Registration district: Rochdale
Registration county: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 51

Is this the parents marriage. Looking for birth of Elizabeth Ball next.


Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Ball Elizabeth R Turner Easington 10a 757

Turner William W Ball Easington 10a 757

Do you have any information about his mother Sarah Ball? Does the birth certificate give Sarah's middle name?

Births Dec 1892 (>99%)

Ball Elizabeth Sarah St. Saviour 1d 169
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In the 1911 census there is an Arthur George William TURNER, single male, 37 years old, (dob 1874) born in Rochdale Lancashire. He is living with his sister Sarah Ellen Turner, who is single, aged 41, born in Yorks Clifford.

Does any of that make sense or match anything you know. Only similarity there is the place name and one of the given names.

Could it be William Turner Junior's grandfather??

Yes have his birth certificate, and thats where I got the parents name but have not found anything else on them.
I know the mothers name is Sarah Ball and father is William Turner, other then that that is all I know.

Let's go fishing . No idea what I'm finding, but it sure looks like it may be relative.

William TURNER Household
Male

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Other Information:
Birth Year
Birthplace Scotland
Age 37
Occupation Chemist & Druggist Asst
Marital Status M
Head of Household William TURNER
Relation Head
Disability

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Source Information:
Dwelling 809 Rochdale Rd
Census Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341957
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4008 / 138
Page Number 53

This is the 1881 Census information. If it is them it means that this William Jr was born around 1874. Could be the father of your grandpa. Or else he married very late in life. There are no ages on the birth certificate are there???

William TURNER Head M Male 37 Scotland Chemist & Druggist Asst
Marion TURNER Wife M Female 34 Scotland
William M. TURNER Son Male 5 Scotland Scholar
Andrew H. TURNER Son Male 3 Scotland
Agnes TURNER Daur Female 2 Salford
Margaret L. TURNER Daur Female 7 m Manchester


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OK We've gone back and found some slight possibilities. Now let's go forward.

Your question was about your grandpa. Do you know your grandmother's name. We can then look for a marriage for your grandpa. Or if no marriage then a relationship that leads to one of your parents.

Would you have your mother's or father's birth certificates (depending on which side of the family this grandpa leads to.)

I don't know if you have tried searching for information yourself. You may like to google FreeBMD and look at what that has to offer. Or LDS Family History or Rootsweb. All these places offer free family history searching. Also check out the "search tree" matches in GR and follow up any matches you may find.

These sites will get you started and there are many more pay to view sites as well.

this is the only William Turner I can find with a birth reg Rochdale & his mothers mn was Sanderson

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Turner William Sanderson Rochdale 8e 114

Nicola. don't know if this helps, but there is a William Turner born c1888 in 1891 and 1901 census, parents William and Charlotte. Family work in cotton industry.
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