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Ivy & May Irene Wright

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Linda

Linda Report 27 May 2009 15:36

Hi all
Helen - yes I have tried searching under the Brown name but no joy. Have also looked under Betty, Betsey, Bessie, Lizzie, Eliza just in case. The 1911 census you found is my Elizabeth with her 1st husband.

I still haven't found any more after this date about her son John Albert Brown but I have found a marriage for Horace Wright 1933 who was GW Wright's son from his 1st marriage.

Fairthorn - the 1901 census for Wright you found is (I think) my GW Wright & the 1891 Brown Emerson census is also mine with Elizabeth as a child. The other Emerson census is not mine, the 2 births for Elizabeth, well I don't have her birth cert but one of them is hers, although I don't know which. You've also hit on another difficutly I had, there were 4 Emerson families in Grimsby at that time with some of the same names & mine were not related in anyway to 2 of them, thankfully the one we are related to only had sons. Linda

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 27 May 2009 09:33

There are 2 Elizabeth's born in that area

Births Sep 1881
Emerson Elizabeth Caistor 7a 637

Births Sep 1882
Emerson Elizabeth Louth 7a 623

1891 census

EMERSON, Clayton Head Married M 46 1845 Pauper
Covenham St Mary
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Betsey Wife Married F 42 1849
Saltfleetby St Peter
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Harrit Daughter Single F 16 1875
Yarburgh
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Annie Daughter Single F 12 1879 Scholar
Covenham St Mary
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Stenigot
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Emma Daughter Single F 8 1883 Scholar
Stenigot
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Selina Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
North Ormsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Charles W Son Single M 1 1890
Covenham St Mary
Lincolnshire
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2611 Folio:
12 Page:
3

Registration District:
Louth Sub District:
Tetney EnumerationDistrict:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Covenham St Mary

Civil Parish:
Covenham St Mary Municipal Borough:
Address:
Near The Church, Fen Lane, Covenham St Mary County:
Lincolnshire


1891 census

BROWN, Thos Head Married M 66 1825 Engine Fitter
London
BROWN, Susannah Wife Married F 67 1824
Sleaford
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Susannah Daughter Married F 28 1863
Boston
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Clara Granddaughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Elizabeth Granddaughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Florence Granddaughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Lilian Granddaughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Thomas Grandson Single M 3 1888 Scholar
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
EMERSON, Ellen Granddaughter Single F 1 1890
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2613 Folio:
99 Page:
31

Registration District:
Caistor Sub District:
Great Grimsby EnumerationDistrict:
10 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James

Civil Parish:
Great Grimsby Municipal Borough:
Grimsby Address:
23, Chapman Street, Great Grimsby, Grimsby County:
Lincolnshire


Gritty

Gritty Report 27 May 2009 08:46

If Elizabeth was previously married to Brown- have you tried searching for Elizabeth's second marriage using her Brown name?

For ref:
1911:
HOUSEHOLD BROWN HARRY SAMUEL WATTS M 1882 29 Grimsby Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD BROWN ELIZABETH F 1882 29 Grimsby Lincolnshire
HOUSEHOLD BROWN JOHN ALBERT M 1905 6 Grimsby Lincolnshire

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 27 May 2009 08:00

1901 census from FINDMYPAST

WRIGHT, George Head Married M 39 1862 Foreman (Coal Heaver)
Wrangle
Lincolnshire
WRIGHT, Betsey Wife Married F 34 1867
Sibsey
Lincolnshire
WRIGHT, George William Son Single M 14 1887 Mineral Water Hand
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
WRIGHT, Violet Daughter Single F 4 1897
Imbecile Grimsby
Lincolnshire
BUTTERFIELD, Clara Servant Single F 16 1885 General Servant Domestic
Grimsby
Lincolnshire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3092 Folio:
96 Page:
14

Registration District:
Grimsby Sub District:
Great Grimsby EnumerationDistrict:
31 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrews

Civil Parish:
Great Grimsby Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Kent Street, Great Grimsby, Grimsby County:
Lincolnshire


Linda

Linda Report 26 May 2009 17:29

I have Ivy's birth cert & yesterday a distant cousin told me she got May's. She is the one who told me about the Wright's, she said she had been told one of her grt aunts married Mr Wright & had 2 daughters Ivy & May. Because she had never heard of the Wrights she got May's birth cert to prove the mothers name, mind you she never heard of the Brown marriage & never found the Brown or Wright marriage. I now accept Ivy & May's parents are in fact GW Wright & Elizabeth Emerson. But I wonder if the GW Wright on the birth certs is the same as the one i found in 1911 census married to Emily & the one I found died 1954 in Grimsby. I think I'll have to get the death certificate of the GW 1954 & see if there is anything on that to prove or disprove he's mine & then go from there.

I know Elizabeth Emerson married as I found her marriage to HSW Brown on a cd of marriage registers for Grimsby & it was definatley my Elizabeth as she was living in the family home & I already knew her fathers name which was confirmed on the marriage register. I knew of this marriage long before I heard of the Wright one.

In hopes of finding a living relative of these people I looked for Ivy & May's marriages but had no luck there either.

By the way - Thanks for all your help, it's spurred me onto thinking of new avenues to look for new info. Linda

Linda

Linda Report 25 May 2009 15:47

I've been told that in 1914 when Ivy was born GW Wright was a Coal ------(unreadable) & he was in the army in 1917. GW died 1954 Grimsby age 68yr but is this my one? I'm not sure. I saw the census above & also think it could be him but only base that on him likely being born in Grimsby. If it is him then he married Emily Ball 1907 & had a son Horace same yr in Grimsby but can't find a death for Emily.
Elizabeth Emerson was also married previoulsy to Harry Samuel Watts Brown 1903 Grimsby & had a son John Albert 1904 & I can't find a death for Harry Brown either. I have both GW & Elizabeth with their 1st spouses & children on 1911 census, so I'm now thinking there was no "marriage" between GW Wright & Elizabeth as they both had living spouses.....but they somehow got together between 1911 & 1914? Unless I have the worng GW Brown. I have searched the trees here & sent messages to someone who I know is researching the same family but they haven't replied to any of them.... Linda

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 25 May 2009 12:28


Hi Linda, This could be George William in the 1901 census. By the time Ivy was born in 1914 he would have been 27. Without knowing his date of birth or the names of his father and mother it is quite difficult. There are many GW Wrights to choose from. It is obvious from the BMD entries that he was the father of ivy and May Irene and that their mum's name was Emerson. Have not been able to find a marriage. If you have any further dates, or names please chuck them into the pot so we can stir it a bit.

Name: George William Wright
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Betsey
Gender: Male
Where born: Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Grimsby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Grimsby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
George Wright 39
Betsey Wright 34
George William Wright 14
Violet Wright 4
Clara Butterfield 16

AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 25 May 2009 11:35

Surname Given Name Mother District Volume Page

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Births Jun 1914
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WRIGHT Ivy Emerson Grimsby 7a 1133

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Wright May I Emerson Grimsby 7a 973




AuntySherlock

AuntySherlock Report 25 May 2009 09:10

Hi Linda, Try searching the trees on GR. Click on Search Trees on green line above. Put in your information and then on the couple of matches which look promising click the "find out more" button.

Linda

Linda Report 25 May 2009 09:01

Ivy Wright born 1914 & her sister May Irene Wright born 1917 both in Grimsby Lincolnshire. I believe their parents were George WIlliam Wright & Elizabeth Emerson but I'm not sure, as I can't find a marriage.
Can anyone help with information on this family? Thanks Linda