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birth of emma fletcher Hall

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Keith

Keith Report 8 Jun 2009 18:04

hit a problem ? ihave a marriage cert for her aged 24 in 1895.and a death cert aged 48 in 1919 but cannot find record of birth. believe she was born in leeds and fathers name on marriage cert is elyzah george gledhill any help please

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jun 2009 18:11

1881 census for. ref.

1881 England Census
about Emma F. Gledhill
Name: Emma F. Gledhill
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Elijah G.
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Camleys Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah G. Gledhill 38
Emma Gledhill 39
Emma F. Gledhill 10

1871

1871 England Census
about Elizah George Gledhill
Name: Elizah George Gledhill
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Armley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Household Members: Name Age
Elizah George Gledhill 28
Emma Gledhill 29
Emma Gledhill 10 months





Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jun 2009 18:12

1901
Name: Emma Fletcher Hall
[Emma Fletcher Gladhill]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leicester Formerly Belgrave
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hall 26
Emma Fletcher Hall 29
Thomas Oswell Hall 4
Arthur Edward Hall 3
Florence G E Hall 1
Emma Gladhill 60 - mother in law

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jun 2009 18:20

Strong possibility:-

Births Mar 1871
Fletcher Emma Gledhill Bramley 9b 361

could be she was born before her mother married and changed the names around after the marriage.

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jun 2009 18:22

Parents marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1864 (>99%)
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Fletcher Emma Leeds 9b 606
Gledhill Elijah George Leeds 9b 606


It could be that Emma birth wasn't recorded. It wasn't complusory until 1875

Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jun 2009 18:33

If the marriage was in 1864, then maybe the person registering her birth just recorded it wrongly, or it has been mistranscribed.

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jun 2009 18:34

Just looked at the 1871 census page. It says that Emma was adopted>

There is a comment in the occupation box but I can't read it.

Any suggestions from anyone?

Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Jun 2009 22:02

Andy,
If she was adopted then that would fit the birth record I found:-

Births Mar 1871
Fletcher Emma Gledhill Bramley 9b 361

but to know who her parents were Keith will have to buy the cert.

Could be that she was the daughter of a sibling of Emma who either died or was unmarried, hence the name Fletcher, and as Elijah and her were going to adopt the girl, her birth was recorded with his name as well?
Could also be that she was Emma's daughter to someone else and Elijah just adopted her.
But those are just theories.
Need to see the cert. to see what it says.

I've looked at the census record and can't make out what it says either.