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John Harris 1821 and father Marquis? Harris 1786

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Thomas

Thomas Report 27 Jun 2009 16:19

Yes it should be a male, Marquis is in the same age column as John so unless the transcriber has made a mistake it should be a male and it should be father and son. How can I find out where they are from when it says 'foreign parts'?

Thanks
Tom

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 27 Jun 2009 16:15

Name: John Harres
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Foreign Parts

Civil parish: Leeds Town
Hundred: Leeds Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Leeds North
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Langdon 20
John Keath 20
Smith Harrison 15
Margann Harres 55 Image does say Marquis
John Harres 20
Joseph Lewas 20

Roy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jun 2009 16:10

According to the 41 census he's male, a hawker.

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 Jun 2009 16:05

thought it was a male - maybe Morgan (Welsh)

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 16:02

Ok i am now confused,

This Maryann...Marquis Harris, she's 51 so are we assuming she's John's mother as he is only 20??

They are both Hawkers, so they could be Irish?

Thomas you never mentioned their relationship??

Tracey x

Thomas

Thomas Report 27 Jun 2009 16:02

HO 107/1347/4
Enumeration Scedule 42
Borough of Leeds
Township of Leeds

Sorry for getting confused. I thought since I have accessed this community through genesreunited I presumed everybody was on it. I hope this is sufficient now, this is everything I could get off the census page.
It says F for where they come from 'Foreign Parts' so I dismissed Scotland and Ireland as it says 'whether from scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts'. And what about our dark skin?

Kind regards
Tom

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 16:00

hahaha, yeah i see it too...

Ok so if i were a betting person my money is on them being Scottish!

Briggs and Harris are very Scottish names.

T x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Jun 2009 15:55

Found it! John Harres
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1347; Book: 4; Civil Parish: Leeds Town; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 31; Folio: 41; Page: 5; Line: 16; GSU roll: 464290

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:54

Is this your marriage?

Marriages Dec 1841
BRIGGS Mary Leeds 23 355
HARRIS John Leeds 23 355

Might give you a head start....

T x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:47

The very least we need is the piece, folio and page number of the image!

T x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:46

Thomas that is no good to us, Genes is a pay per view site....

You need to try and copy the data and post the info here

T x

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 27 Jun 2009 15:46

Thomas , You need to give the details of the 1841 census as the link is no use, you need credits to view the image, I have ancestry and with the correct details i can view the image on ancestry

Roy

Thomas

Thomas Report 27 Jun 2009 15:42

Here is the link
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/records/srimage.aspx?ff_type=18&key=39242695

please can you check if I have the name Marquis correct!
Thank You ever so much for your time

Thomas

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:34

snap Porkie x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:34

Thomas can you please post the 1841 census you have.

Tracey x

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 27 Jun 2009 15:33

can you post the 1841 census details?

Roy

Thomas

Thomas Report 27 Jun 2009 15:29

more info added

Thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 27 Jun 2009 15:26

If you find them on the 1851 census it will say where they were born

Roy

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 27 Jun 2009 15:23

Thomas

You need to give us more details!!

Whom where their children?? how are they linked into your tree...

What are the other details on the 1841 census, indeed can you post the data here?

We need as much data as possible to be able to help you more.

Tracey x

Thomas

Thomas Report 27 Jun 2009 15:20

Please can someone help. In the 1841 census John and Marquis?! Harris living in Leeds are registered as 'born in foreign parts'. John Harris had 2 children with a Mary Briggs. I am not sure if they were married. She was born in 1822 in Hunslet, Leeds. Their children were Benjamin Harris 1843 and Samuel 1846. The latter is my great great grandfather. He had a daughter called Elsie Harris born 1897. I can't find or imagine where they would be from and since we have slightly darker skin than the usual Englishmen was wondering if anybody knows anything? I can't find John or his father on the 1851 or 1861 census, only a John Harris living in London who was from Bermuda?!