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No, I can't find him on the 1881 census at all. In the 1891 census there's a JEJ visiting another family as a cousin. The wife of the family he was visiting was a Jones but I can't make a connection when I work back.

Also, are you suggesting that the father was possibly out of the picture and may not even have gone to Liverpool with mother and son?

Thanks Ricochet, you definitely are giving me more food for thought.

Just a thought, but since I can't look at the death registers is there any way I can find out who was living at an address on a date other than a census year? I have the address where JEJ was living at his marriage and since his father was deceased maybe his mother was alive and he was living with her.

Bear in mind that fathers who are 'deceased' on marriage certs are sometimes figments of the person's imagination!

Have you found the son with his family in 1881?

Thanks Ricochet, I was hoping there might be somewhere I could look at the registers because not knowing the death year there are way too many John Jones - it would put me in bankruptcy!

Yvonne

Only by purchasing the cert can you find out who registered the death

Is there any way I can look at death registers to see who registered a death in Liverpool?
I've been looking for the birth of a John Elias Jones b. abt. 1873 in Holywell, Flintshire and brought to Liverpool at the age of about 3 months (according to my, now deceased, mother-in-law). I know he married and died in Liverpool and marriage cert. gives his father as John Jones. I can only find one JEJ birth in the Findmy past records (Dec 1872) and that's not him. His father, John, was deceased at the marriage so I thought if I did a guessimate on death there might be a clue on the death registration.