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Thank you Brenda,
I will send for a cert to get Johannas maiden name and her husbands proper name.
viv

Margarets Birth

Births Mar 1854
Tobin Margaret Cardiff 11a 190

Thanks Jan
Got her.
viv

Hi Viv,
If you just put in Martha Thomas b1867
it's the first one with a blank against parents' name.
Janice

You wont find John tobin on freebmd,he was born Ireland.

Edit .......
Thats it!!
I am going to bed as I just realised you were looking for his death NOT HIS BIRTH.

Exactly what I found Jan

But Im thinking that maybe they were still in Ireland and it was easier just to say all the kids were born cardiff?

Blessed if I can find martha on 1871 on anc ,even with the piece numbers etc.
Think I had best give this up as a bad job.

Johanna is a widow in 1881 but I can't find a death for anyone resembling John Lace - or John with a middle name - on FreeBMD.
I can't find them in 1861 although they should be there with a John and a Michael.

Diolch yn fawr
To both of you.
Maybe It will be clearer in 1861 WHEN I find them,I seem to be losing my touch this week,everyone seems to have gone into hiding on me.


viv

Hi Vivienne,

Look at the squiggly 'r' in Ireland - they match. Spelling mistake - no 'u' is common. Can't read the name though lol!

Duw Bach Jan...
I never would have put that as labourer

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5365; Folio: 35; Page: 67; GSU roll: 848454.

From anc
thank you so much again
viv

Noswaith da, Vivienne,

Occupation is 'laborer'

Janice

Oh and somerset ,yes you are quite correct.but the "pent"should really be "pen"

Thank you both Soooooo much,I have searched for hours on anc and fmp.

Next.
Would you be able to look at this transcription and tell me what you think
John lace tobins real name is ,also his occupation??
I cant make them out at all.
Cheeky I know but ,,pretty please
***************************************************
1871 Wales Census
about John Lace Tobin
Name: John Lace Tobin
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Canton
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
Town: Canton
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

viv

hi possible
1871 census

Name Martha Thomas
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household MERCHANT
Occupation FARM COOPER
Address Penared
District Cardigan, Cardigan
Parish
Administrative County Cardiganshire
Birth Place Moiyrooe
Birth County PEMBROKESHIRE
in house
john head 60 cooper
mary wife 50
martha 4
calip 2 male
mary 1

Hello all,Help please to find Martha in 1871 if you would.

1881
Name: Martha Thomas
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Moilgrove, Pembrokeshire, Wales


She says born moylegrove(correct spelling) on all census after this as Martha davies(married name),but I cant find her with
father John thomas,cooper by trade, as per her marriage cert.
Any help gratefully recieved.

thanks
viv