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Mary was about 5 years older than Daniel, on the 1851 he is 21 and she is 26, so he would have been too young to be in service with her.

Off to a wedding now so probably won't be back until tomorrow

Many thanks for all your efforts so far

Pam

Pam

just thought. it might be worth looking for mary Ann Harris as part of a household with daniel smith, she could have met him when she was working as a servant?

i've got to go out now but i'll look later if you havent had any luck

Ginny


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Pam

funny you say that she may have been in service as i came accross a lot of Mary a Harris (some on their own) when I looked for you, they were all about 15 - 17 which would make sense, so maybe that 1841 census is her family?

ginny

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There's this one in 1851

Name: Henry Harris
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Gloucester St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St John the Baptist
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Harris 47
Mary Harris 45
Elizabeth Harris 25
Sarah Harris 22
Henry Harris 12
Ann Harris 9
Samuel Harris 9
Thos Harris 6

All born in Gloucestershire

He's a Cordwainer (shoemaker)

There is a baptism on IGI, which I can't access at the moment, for a Mary Ann Harris, father Henry, I think it was 1827 but I can't find any of the other children or the family in 1841.

Pam

Hello Ginny

I found that one as well. I got Ann's birth certificate, 28/1/1838. My Mary Ann was 'of full age' on her marriage certificate in 1850. I had thought that maybe Mary Ann was an older child, possibly in service in 1841. However it seems that Henry and Sarah did not marry until 1827 and had a child in 1828, it doesn't rule these out as her parents but it looks unlikely.

Pam

this Henry is a shoemaker, duaghter Ann, maybe mary ann?

1841 England Census
about Henry Harris
Name: Henry Harris
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Hundred: Gloucester City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Harris 38
Sarah Harris 40
George Harris 13
Henry Harris 7
Ann Harris 3

EDIT The wife matches up with your info - Sarah Also Georeg is listed as 13 I suppose the ages could have mixed up between Ann and him?
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Theres this one but dad is a butcher so maybe not

1841 England Census
about Mary Harris
Name: Mary Harris
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Shenington
Hundred: Tewkesbury (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Swalcliffe
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Harris 40
Elizabeth Harris 39
John Harris 16
Mary Harris 12
Thomas Harris 9


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n for Saturday

Hello Clitheroelass

She married Daniel Smith, although he's transcribed as David on most censuses.

Who did she marry

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1850 (>99%)
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Clark Harriet Gloster 11 387
Dadd Esther Gloster 11 387
Gregory Francis James Gloster 11 387
Harris Mary Ann Gloster 11 387
Mathews Samuel Glo'ster 11 387
Pitt Eliza Gloster 11 387
Sheppard William Gloster 11 387
Smith Daniel Gloster 11 387



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On the marriage certificate of my Great x 2 Grandmother, Mary Ann Harris it gives her father as Henry Harris, shoemaker. The marriage took place in the parish church in Hempsted, very close to Gloucester, in January 1850. The certificate does not say that Henry was deceased.

I have found 2 Henry Harris's who were shoemakers in Gloucester. The first, on the 1841, was living in the St Nicolas area with wife Sarah. I bought the birth certificate for one of their younger children which gave me the mother's maiden name as Pritchard. However IGI (submitted) has Henry and Sarah marrying in 1827 and from the census they had children born in 1828, 1834 and 1838. I'm not discounting them as Mary Anne's parents but I have my doubts.

The other Henry Harris I found on the 1851 with wife Mary but can't find him on the 1841.

From censuses Mary Anne's year of birth could be anywhere between 1825 and 1829.

Can anyone find either Mary Ann or Henry on the 1841, on her marriage cert Mary's occupation is Boot Binder.

Thanks to anyone who looks

Pam