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THANKS YOU GUYS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FOUND THEM ILL ORDER THE MARRAIGE CERTIFACATE NOW ALSO CAN ANYONE CHECK FOR ME IF THEY HAD ANY MORE CHILDREN I KNOW THERE WHERE ALOT OF THEM 8 OR 9 BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARTHUR THOMAS HAD,WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO CHECK FOR ANY OF THEM WITH THE MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME HAYWARD THANKS

yeah pollypoppet thats the same one i got but on the orignal cecus it does say hes a bricklayer so i dont know whats gone wrong there

thank you your a great help sorry to confuse you the marrige im looking for is william christmas roberts you lot are dead good i dont know how i find all this out so quick i dont think ill ever find the info as like you said he has probly gone under william and left the christmas out,also i had a strange feeling forsome reason but i wonder if william christmas roberts was arthur thomas roberts granddad and he named him as his dad as he brought him up or something or was it normal for people to have children in there 50s as wm christmas was born 1867 and arthur was born 1919 because i dont know arthurs mothers maiden name its made it hard as there 3 registered arthur t roberts born 1919 oct nov dec i checked th maiden name pask and she married an albert roberts and i checked wiggins maiden name and she didt marry william either so i dont know and the other one i havent checked up yet

hi for ref is this him in 1891 states he is a printer same as the 1901 census i have put up
1891 census

John Smith
Name William Roberts
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation PRINTER
Address 46 Canning Road
District Islington, Highbury.
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Marylebone
Birth County MIDDLESEX
in house
william 23
ann mother widow 54

Your post is a bit muddled so not sure if this is correct info you want!
Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Christmas William Alfred Islington 1b 663
Starr Annie Islington 1b 663
Swallow Mary Ann Islington 1b 663

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
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CHRISTMAS William H Islington 1b 619
Lovegrove Annie M Islington 1b 619
Rayfield Violet M Islington 1b 619



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hi could this be him
1901 census

Address 2 Birkbeck Rd
Civil Parish Hornsey
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Hornsey St Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division Hornsey
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Hornsey
Administrative County Middlesex
Householder 1
Name Sarah Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 36
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Herts Watford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name William C Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 33
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Printers Warehouseman
Employment Status
Where Born London Marylebone
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Joseph T Twydell
Relation to Head of Family Boarder
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 21
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Plumber
Employment Status
Where Born London Camden Town
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Wm Twydell
Relation to Head of Family Boarder
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 19
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Bricklayer
Employment Status
Where Born London Camden Town
Language
Infirmity

hello im trying to solve this mystery for my friend ive put threads out before and ill tell you the information i have so we dont get mixed up im tryng to find out about arthur thomas roberts born oct 1919 on arthurs marraige cert his father ather wa named as william christmas roberts (deceased) occupation bricklayer so i checked the records and arthur was a londoner i found only 2 william christmas roberts one from wales and the other one from marylebone in london 1867 on the cencus 1871 it showded him as living with edward roberts (father) and anna (mother)now im stuck you see because im trying to find out who wlliam married so i can get a wedding certifacate to confirm no surely if william christmas got married it would state william christmas and not just william on the cencus 1891 if ive got it right william was livingin islington with just his mother he was 23 and not married so itwould of been after that can anyone help me please as i know you are good at your work these records have got t be somewhere and it would be nice to find them