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It is actually Charles's wife I'm looking for but have not yet been able to find a marriage for her maiden name. Her first name was Elizabeth & she was born 1826 in Winchester. I have not been able to find a likely marriage.

This couple took in one of my gr grandfather's sisters after they were orphaned and in 1881 Jane Lilian is found with this couple, under the name Phillis (by which name she was known until her death) in Camberwell, London.

Can anyone help with Elizabeth's maiden name please? I have not found an Elizabeth with similar birth details in either father's or mother's family. Jane's father's family was Gauntlett, mother's could be either Cooper or Osman, although the mother's name was Thompson. There will be no Thompson's as her mother remarried an Osman and she was brought up by her Cooper grandparents.

Hopefully
Heather

Hi Heather,

For ref;

1881 England Census
about Charles Roberts
Name: Charles Roberts
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 285 Albany Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Roberts 56
Elizabeth Roberts 55
Charles Roberts 24
Philis Gauntlett 14

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Roberts
Name: Elizabeth Roberts
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 199a
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Roberts 45
Elizabeth Roberts 42
Henry Roberts 18
Charles Roberts 14
Louisa Summey 22 Niece

1861 England Census
about Charles Roberts
Name: Charles Roberts
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Holborn St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St Andrew Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 233
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Roberts 34
Emma Roberts 31 born St Andrws, Worcestershire
Henry Roberts 9
Charles Roberts 5
Ann Wright 36 >>>>>>>> visitor

Thank you both, but it's Elizabeth's maiden name that I need. I guess it could be Summey, though I've not yet found that name in my tree either. Summey could also be Charles' female side.

Hi Heather,

This was just to give some background........... so Charles and Elizabeth married between 1861 and 1871, just looking for Emmas death to narrow down a time slot.


Dee x

Heather, I've had a look to try and tally up a marriage, no joy. Would you prefer to trace Emma......... she seems to be Charles and Henry's mother.


Dee x

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Allen Henry Martley 18 631
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holloway Emma Martley 18 631
Linton Mary Ann Martley 18 631
Moss Thomas Martley 18 631
>>>>>>>>>>>>>...Roberts Charles Martley 18 631
Smith Caroline Martley 18 631


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May not be any connection but found the following
Charles Roberts born 1826 Norton Worcs married Emma Holloway 1850 in Cotheridge Worcs. Emma died 1868 in London
Children
Charles 1856
Emma 1867
Henry 1853 died in Salt Lake City USA 1907
All born in Norton. Charles parents are stated at Henry Roberts and Elizabeth (Betty) Jones

Charles then married Elizabeth Gauntlett 1875 in Norton Worcs had one son Thomas King Roberts 1876 in Norton Worcs. Elizabeth sometimes appears at Elizabeth Gauntlett (King)

Charles died in 1896 Elizabeth there is no death date for but both died in Salt Lake City USA.

Thank you everyone. It seems that Elizabeth was a Gauntlett when she married Charles, which Ancestry trees place c 1875. I can't find any record of this marriage on either Ancestry or Familysearch. In any case she was obviously living with Charles in 1871.
The problem for me now is that Ancestry trees have her as born in Norton, though both 1871 ans 1881 say Winchester. In itself that's a problem in that I cannot find an Elizabeth Gauntlett b Winchester c 1826, which is also consistent.
I can't even find her in previous censuses with those birth details.
I do wonder if she perhaps married a Gauntlett, but can't find that in 1861 or previous either. I've tried a marriage search with Gauntlett surname and her first name but without success.
Hey-ho, at least I know the connection.