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John George Walter Bennett 1888 Fulham

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Stephen

Stephen Report 12 Aug 2009 19:29

I am looking for John George Walter Bennett born Fulham 1888 on the 1901 census......I think I have found him on the 1891 census but he is staying with his aunt.....can anyone help me find him on the 1901 census

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 12 Aug 2009 19:45

hi stephen im sorry i read your thread wrong will have another look for you

Stephen

Stephen Report 21 Aug 2009 13:46

I have got John George Walter Bennetts birth cert in the post today - he was born 1888 fulham (as we already knew) but extra information is - father John Bennett (bricklayer) mother Sarah jane Bennett maiden name Rayner..........so it looks like the census in this thread are not the correct ones - can anyone help please

Barbara

Barbara Report 21 Aug 2009 15:04

Think I found them:-

1891 census transcription details for: 108, St Katherines Road, Kensington
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 23 Folio: 21 Page: 37

Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington Town
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: St James Norlands
Parish: Kensington City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 108, St Katherines Road, Kensington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
BENNETT, John Head Married M 29 1862 Bricklayer
Lisson Grove
London
BENNETT, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1864
Lisson Grove
London
BENNETT, Florence Daughter F 4 1887
Kensington
London
BENNETT, John Son M 1 1890
Kensington
London
BENNETT Son M 0 (3M) 1891
Kensington
London


You will probably need to send for one of the other kids birth certs to be sure of mothers maiden name.

Stephen

Stephen Report 21 Aug 2009 15:34

thank you for your time barbara, that definately looks like them in 1891......I had obviously got it wrong when I said he was with his aunt this was my thoughts before the certificate arrived.....any ideas where they are in 1901?

Stephen

Stephen Report 21 Aug 2009 17:14

can anyone help me find this family in 1901 - I have been looking for hours and seemed to have tried every combination possible!

Stephen

Stephen Report 21 Aug 2009 19:12

nudge - I'm getting desperate now!!

Stephen

Stephen Report 24 Aug 2009 19:30



I have definately found John on 1891 census, staying with his grandparents (Sarah Rayners b1867 paddington parents)
the family were living at 50 Clifton Street, Hammersmith. George Rayner was aged 52, occupation wheelwright.

With him were:

Martha aged 50, born Paddington
Frederick, aged 18, born Shepherds Bush, Middlesex. Occupation carriage cleaner
Joseph, aged 16, born Notting Hill, occupation van boy
Edward, aged 14, born Notting Hill, occupation errand boy
Louisa, aged 11, born Notting Hill
Rosina, aged 9, born Notting Hill
Ellen, aged 7, born Notting Hill
John Bennett (grandson) aged 2, born Notting Hill.

So, do you think he could be on 2 census.......and where areJohn and Sarah Bennett + son John in 1901?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 24 Aug 2009 22:28

Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
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BENNETT Florence Daisy Kensington 1a 142

possible

1901
Address: 25, Hazelwood Crescent, Kensington
WINSTONE, Henry Head Married M 29 1872 Gas Stoker
Kensington
London VIEW
WINSTONE, Lucy Wife Married F 27 1874
Kensington
London VIEW
WINSTONE, Rose A Daughter F 3 1898
Kensington
London VIEW
WINSTONE, John H Son M 2 1899
Kensington
London VIEW
WINSTONE, Thomas Son M 0 (9 MOS) 1901
Kensington
London VIEW
BENNETT, Florence Servant Single F 14 1887 Domestic
Kensington
London

Barbara

Barbara Report 25 Aug 2009 09:57

It has happened in my family being on 2 census. Parents thought he was with them and grandparent said with them so perhaps they put him down as part of household but was not in fact there on the night.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 10:24

1901 Address: 67, Claredon Road, Kensington
MACDONA, Henry W Head Married M 47 1854 Retired Accountant
Australia Sydney N S W VIEW
MACDONA, Florence C Wife Married F 47 1854
Brixton
London VIEW
KRALL, Anthony Boarder Single M 31 1870 Ladies Tailor
Hungary(Hung Subjt) VIEW
POYSER, Sydney H Boarder Single M 31 1870 Vocalist
Sevarkstones
Derbyshire VIEW
ZIEROL, George Curt Boarder Single M 20 1881 Merchants Clerk
Germany (German Subt) VIEW
HORGER, Curt Ts H Boarder Single M 19 1882 Insurance Clerk
Germany (German Subt) VIEW
HVASLIP, Axel Boarder Single M 18 1883 Merchants Clerk
Norway (Norwegian Subjt) VIEW
DIXON, Mary L Visitor Single F 28 1873 Governess
Bedford
Bedfordshire VIEW
LUPTON, Sarah Servant Single F 39 1862 Cook (Domestic)
Elstree
Hertfordshire VIEW
BENNETT, Rose E Servant Single F 15 1886 Housemaid Domestic
Notting Hill
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 10:39


1901
Address: 28, Crescent Street, Kensington
CAIN, Andrew Head Married M 40 1861 Tinsmith
Surrey VIEW
CAIN, Lydia Wife Married F 39 1862
Marylebone VIEW
BENSLEY, Henry Head Married M 59 1842 Wood Chopper
Marylebone VIEW
BENSLEY, Louise Wife Married F 50 1851
Plymouth VIEW
PUDDEPHEN, Thomas Head Married M 32 1869 Licd Hawker
Bristol VIEW
PUDDEPHEN, Emily Wife Married F 28 1873
Bedford VIEW
WOODGER, John Head Married M 34 1867 Carman
Fulham VIEW
WOODGER, Emily Wife Married F 30 1871
Lincolnshire VIEW
HODGES, John Head Married M 50 1851 Agricul Laborer
Oxford VIEW
HODGES, Margaret Wife Married F 31 1870
Ireland VIEW
BENNETT, Edwd Head Married M 28 1873 Flower Seller
Notting Hill VIEW
BENNETT, Alice Wife Married F 24 1877 Flower Seller
Notting Hill VIEW
ANDREWS, John Head Married M 27 1874 Licd Hawker
Kensington VIEW
ANDREWS, Alice Wife Married F 24 1877 Licd Hawker
Kensington VIEW
PARKER, John Head Married M 29 1872 Bath Chairman
Notting Hill VIEW
PARKER, Nellie Wife Married F 25 1876
Notting Hill

several possible marriages for edward and alice but only 2 in london area

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Bennett Edward Croydon 2a 656
DUFFY Alice Croydon 2a 656
EDWARDS William Croydon 2a 656
ROGERS Ann Croydon 2a 656

Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Bennett Edward John Wandsworth 1d 1136
Dixey Philip Wandsworth 1d 1136
Eastwood Maud Ella Wandsworth 1d 1136
Elson Alice Eliza Wandsworth 1d 1136


The Wandsworth one most likely as neare in geographhy

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 10:48


Is this the one you found in 1891?

Have you connected John and Elizabeth to the Bennets.? Is Elizabeth Sarah's sister or John's' sister?

They are living in a caravan and he is a hawker so possibly travellers?

Or is it the wrong one completely?

1891
Address: 1, Caravan Back Of Woodville Grove, Woodville Grove East, Tottenham
THOMAS, John Head Married M 48 1843 Licensed Hawker
Croydon Road VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1846
Beckenham
Sussex VIEW
BENNETT, Henry Nephew M 5 1886
Fulham
London VIEW
BENNETT, John Nephew M 3 1888
Fulham
London VIEW
BENNETT, Elizabeth Niece F 0 (9M) 1891
Tottenham VIEW
GUMBLE, Alice Niece Single F 14 1877
Smithfield
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 10:53

strange

I just searched for Henry in 1901 and result came up but it was empty. Can anyone see if it is the same on Ancestry.

1901 census - household transcription
Person: BENNETT, Harry F
Address: North End Road, Fulham

Cost:
You will be charged 3 credits for a transcript and 3 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results 1901 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
61 Folio:
152 Page:
48

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North-East Fulham EnumerationDistrict:
16 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Andrew

Civil Parish:
Fulham Municipal Borough:
Address:
North End Road, Fulham County:
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 11:08

hmmmm

just tried to find alice gumble 1901

no results so tried Alice born in Smithfield

several results but found this one.

1901 Address: 11, Gipsy Caravan Van Donovans Yard, Battersea
HILDEN, Mark Head Married M 23 1878 Hawker
Epsom
Surrey VIEW
HILDEN, Alice Wife Married F 23 1878 Hawker
Smithfield
Middlesex VIEW
HILDEN, Thomas Son Single M 4 1897
Woolwich
Kent VIEW
HILDEN, John Son Single M 2 1899
Wandsworth
Surrey

I looked for a marriage and came up with this

Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Gumble Alice Hilden Wandsworth 1d 1296
Hilden Mark Gumble Wandsworth 1d 1296
Morrison George J Shechy Wandsworth 1d 1296
Nichols Percy J Collins Wandsworth 1d 1296


better late than never I suppose.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 11:11

1881
Address: 1, Caravan, Lower Richmond Rd, Putney
GUMBLE, John Head Married M 24 1857 Travellers
Not Known
GUMBLE, Rachael Wife Married F 27 1854 Travellers
Wandsworth
Surrey
GUMBLE, Alice Daughter Single F 4 1877 Travellers
Holloway
Middlesex
GUMBLE, John Son Single M 6 1875 Travellers
Battersea
Surrey
ALLABONE, Lizzie Visitor Single F 12 1869 Travellers
Croydon
Surrey


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 11:40

1881
Address: 14, Western Terrace, Kensington
BENNETT, Annie Head Widow F 46 1835 Cook Domes
Eton
Buckinghamshire
BENNETT, John Son Single M 19 1862 Breaksman G H N
Kensington
Middlesex
BENNETT, Henry Son Single M 17 1864 Tailor
Kensington
Middlesex
BENNETT, George Son Single M 14 1867 Bakers Boy
Kensington
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Aug 2009 11:47

It id puzzling me I have been unable to find a bmd or census reference to confirm
John George Walter Bennett


With such so many names would a sibling also have more names

I need you to come back to me before I search anymore.

Stephen

Stephen Report 25 Aug 2009 12:11

sorry Christine, I am not sure what you are asking me.........I know John George walter Bennett was born 4 Aug 1888 hammersmith, fulham. Parents John Bennett and Sarah Jane Rayner. I have followed Sarah Jane Rayners side so I am 101% sure that he is staying with the Rayners on the 1891 census that I posted. My problem now is once he was born John and Sarah Bennett seem to disappear. I was hoping to find them in 1891 or 1901 as I need to trace the Bennett line and have nothing to go on . Except John George Walter Bennetts father was John Bennett Bricklayer - he was alive when John George Walter Bennett married in 1912. He was also a bricklayer on John George Walter Bennetts BC in 1888.
My other problem is that I do not know for sure if he had any siblings

On his BC his parents were both living at 69 Latymer Road, Hammersmith (the name of the road is really hard to read so may be wrong but definately is 69 Laty..er Road, hammersmith)

Stephen

Stephen Report 25 Aug 2009 19:07

for information.....for anyone helping me find John and Sarah Bennett in 1891 +1901 - sarah Bennett (nee rayner) was born c1867 paddington /kensington (depending which census you read - 1871 or 1881)