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Hi

Some great people on here have helped me in the past when I have been stuck! Wonder if anyone has any ideas/knows what Im doing wrong here!

Am look for a family on 1871 census but no luck. The have always been in London and no reason to go abroad but I can only find one sibling that is staying with an Aunt!

The names are -

Susan Twilley (nee Maides) b1840 Edmonton (MOTHER)
Frederick Twilley b1859 Marylebone
Alfred b1861 Strand
Rosetta Ann b 1864 Strand

I have found a sibling Susan b1863 Strand living in Regents Park with a relative but have drawn blanks on all the others.

Any ideas from anyone?

I have found the parents on the 1861 and have them on the 1891 and 1901. Havent looked at the 1881 at all as I dont have a sub to any other sites.

Many thanks

possible for frederick

1881 England Census
about Frederick Twilley
Name: Frederick Twilley
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 78 Whitfield St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Jewel Case Maker (Leather)

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Twilley 22
Emily Twilley 20
Frederick Twilley 1
Louisa Wootton 49 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lodger

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possible marriage


Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Twilley Frederick Henry Pancras 1b 216
WILLINGALE Emily Harriett Pancras 1b 216

thanks Jacky

that's definitely him.

im really keen to find Rosetta in 1871 and 1881 as she is my ancestor.

much appreciated

J

a possible for rosetta in 1871


1871 England Census
about Rosetta Swilley
Name: Rosetta Swilley
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Dean; St John
Civil parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 289
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Swilley 30
Frederick Swilley 11
Ernest Swilley 9
Rosetta Swilley 6
Patrick Wallace 42

Jacky - what a star you are!

That has to be them. I will have a look at the original later.

I had tried all kinds of variants of twilley but have to be honest and say i didnt try Swilley!!

Dont suppose you had any luck on the 1881?

Thank you!

J

I don't know if you have them on 1861 but they are mistranscribed again so I will post it for reference.

Can't find them yet on 1881!

1861 England Census
about Fredk Swilly
Name: Fredk Swilly
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Westminster St Anne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Fredk Swilly 23 Jewel case maker
Susan Swilly 20
Fredk Swilly 8 Mo
Catherine Swilly 24 nursemaid
Sarah Swilly 24 I 'THINK' this says 'sister' (to Frederick) but the writing is very poor!


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 175; Folio: 78; Page: 18; GSU roll: 542586.


Dea x

hi john & dea
i.m not having much luck with them on the 1881 census at all have tried soundtex & alsorts even look on igi but that only list frederick (b 1859 ) with his wife but will look again when i get a chance but will check here when i get back

jacky

James -
Re "Havent looked at the 1881 at all as I dont have a sub to any other sites."

It's free to search on Ancesty and the LDS site:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

Both use the LDS transcription. The LDS has a better display of the household, but it's easier to search on Ancestry. (I usually search on Ancestry, then look up my find on the LDS site, where it's also easier to check out neighbours.)

You do need an Ancestry sub to see their image, however.

thanks Dea / Jacky

the 1861 I didnt have but havent looked at that one yet. Many thanks.

The 1881 is the real one that is a pain. I had a look at an address that I had on an 1883 birth certificate but no luck which is not surprising as the family did move about quite a lot!

Im about out of imagination as to the different ways/permutations of Twilley too!!!

J

Could you give us the details you have from that 1883 birth cert please? - You never know...............

Mind you, that would probably be a child of Frederick Jnr??? as Frederick Snr. died in 1866?

I think Susan may not have died until 1909 but I still can't find her on any other census! drattt!!! I thought she would probably have remarried having been widowed so young but I can't find any evidence of this either!

Dea x

Dea x

Hi Dea

Apologies - it is a marriage certificate! Not birth.I dont have it on me but it is the marriage of Rosetta Ann Twilley to William Churchill.

At that time Rosetta lived at 3 Little George St and William lived at 6 Little George St (or vice versa!). Little George St was off the Hampstead Road near Euston Station. I think that fell under Pancras or maybe Marylebone.

From memory (im at work so no access to the docs I have) Susan is present in the 1901 living with Rosetta and William but I cant be sure on that.

It is really only Rosetta I am interested in. She was my GGG-M and this is the only gap I now have on her!! She always stayed local and was at various addresses in Soho/Central London up to and including 1901. She died in 1902.

im going to be away from my PC for the rest of the evening probably so apologies if I am silent until tomorrow!

many many thanks for your help!

J

tried a few more random searches on the 1881 at findmypast. No luck unfortunately!

the address on the 1883 marraige was Little George Street but I have address searched that just in case. Am going to double check this morning again.

J