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Smiley

Smiley Report 21 Sep 2009 00:28

Brilliant... thank you, best lead I've had for ages, off to message those people

Sam

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Sep 2009 21:55

Emma Booth's sister Annie in 1901:

Name: Annie Townsend
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Where born: Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Chiswick, Middlesex

John Townsend 27
Annie Townsend 28
Eleanor A Townsend 5


Marriages Jun 1895
Booth Annie Ellen Paddington 1a 126
Townsend John Paddington 1a 126


If Emma Booth *is* your Emily, she just might have been a witness. Not that this would tell you anything -- unless she had married already and signed as Emma/Emily Cook -- or a first married surname ...

> > A GR member has both Emma Booth and Annie Booth in her tree.

> > Another GR member has James Cook 1872 Maidstone in her tree.

They might be able to rule both people in/out for your search.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Sep 2009 21:45

The really big problem is that Emily aged only 5 years from 1901 to 1911! Makes it hard to know what to be searching for. I'd think second wife, except the place of birth is the same.

Just for the sake of completeness, is this another child of theirs?

Births Jun 1914
COOK Jack E P (Booth) Gloucester 6a 572

Re the Emily aged 1 in 1911 -- there is no matching birth, I'm sure you know. ;) (For Emily as either first or middle given name.)


In 1901, both were old enough to have had previous marriages, i.e. Emily could have married under a different surname -- or they simply may never have married.


This is the Emma posted by Vicci for 1881 (definitely the closest match, I agree):

Births Dec 1875
Booth Emma Tewkesbury 6a 431


Aargh, finally. 1891:

Name: Emma Borth
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Stephen
Mother's Name: Ellen
Where born: Elmstone Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Hucclecote

Stephen Borth 47
Ellen Borth 51
Emma Borth 14


I wonder whether this is sister Annie in 1891:

Name: Annie Booth
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Where born: Bishops Cleeve, Gloucestershire, England (~3 miles from Hardwicke)
Civil parish: Paddington

(it kind of has to be; there's no record to account for that Annie otherwise) and whether maybe Emma followed her into service in London.


Could this be James?

Births Mar 1872
COOK James William Maidstone 2a 631


1881:

Name: James W. Cook
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Step Son
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Tonbridge

Samuel Tuppenny 63 - cordwainer, born Ticehurst, Sussex
Agnes Tuppenny 33 - born Cranbrook, Kent
James W. Cook 9
Alfred T. Cook 1


1891, Alfred is a Tuppenny and James is gone:

Agnes Tuppenny 43
Alfred Tuppenny 11
Joseph Tuppenny 9
George Tuppenny 6
Lucy C Tuppenny 5
Amelia Rhodes 23


My best guess for James in 1891 - the place of birth (I finally looked at the image) in fact looks nothing like "Longbridge" and is Tunbridge Wells. That seems to be where the above JWC grew up.

Name: James Cook
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Longbridge, Kent, England
Occupation: General labourer
Civil parish: Milton, Kent


No closer to a marriage, but I think those might be your two people.

Smiley

Smiley Report 20 Sep 2009 13:46

Thank you all for taking the time to look for me, I really appreciate it.

Not too likely that Emily jnr was born in Hereford, she died in Glos and no Florence mentioned on the death cert

This one was investigated and dismissed
Name: Emily Augusta Cook
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 2
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 204

Emma Booth..... I saw that one but without their marriage I cannot get Emilys father... so frustrating

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 20 Sep 2009 01:36

Re that 1891:

"Kens, Louth, Ireland" is inexplicable. Another stupid Ancestry trick.

The image actually says:

"Lon. Kens."

for father John and "do" for all the others -- i.e. London, Kensington. There's an Ireland way up the page ...

So I think that's not him.

Vicci

Vicci Report 20 Sep 2009 00:45

1891

age is bit off but maybe Kent (see 1901)is the Kens Ireland

Name: James Cook
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Kens, Louth, Ireland

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St George Campden Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cook 36
Fanny Cook 36
Hellen Cook 14
Fredrick Cook 9
Florence Cook 4
James Cook 11

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 20 Sep 2009 00:27

Possible birth index

Births December (quarter) 1896
Cook Emily Augusta
Gloucester 6a 280

Vicci

Vicci Report 20 Sep 2009 00:23


nearest so far

Name: Emma Booth
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Stephen
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Swindon
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Brockhampton Lodge
Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Charlton Kings
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Booth 42
Ellen Booth 36
Annie Booth 7
Emma Booth 5

Tudor

Tudor Report 20 Sep 2009 00:22

Might this help ?

I found a Florence Emily Cook, registered Hereford July 1/4 1897, 6A 487. It often happened that a child could be known by the second name, not necessarily the first !!!

Smiley

Smiley Report 19 Sep 2009 23:57

This is one of my brickwalls.... I have picked it up and put it down many times over the last couple of years.

I have this family in 1901 in Gloucester

James Cook 30 Head - builders lab -born Kent (NK)
Emily Cook 28 Wife - born Hardwick, Gloucestershire
Emily Cook 3 daughter - born Gloucestershire
James Cook 1 son - born Gloucestershire
living at 4 Gloucester Place, Gloucester.

Then again in 1911

James Cook 38 - Head - born Ireland! - Invalid
Emily Cook 33 - wife - born Hardwick
James Cook 12 - Glos
George Cook 9 - Glos
Leonard Cook 5 - Glos
Harry Cook 2 - Glos
Emily Cook 1 - Glos
living at 15 Portland St, Gloucester.

married 14yrs, 5 children born , 4 living, 1 died.
There are 5 children above but James has not filled in the Son/daughter bit (thanks James!) so I do not know if Emily aged 1 is their daughter. The boys are all theirs as I have checked at the records office.

Some facts:-
Emily Jnr born 1897 died in a accident in 1905, have death cert.
Did they then name another daughter Emily?

James Snr is James William and that has been interchangable over the years (not helpful) he died as William James.

Emily Snr's maiden name is Booth according to the boys' birth reg's. She died Sept q 1957 aged 82

Leonard is actually Dolphin Leonard!
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My stumblng blocks are......

I cannot find a marriage for James William Cook & Emily Booth

I cannot find a birth for their daughter Emily Cook born 1897

I cannot trace James or Emily prior to 1901 with any certainty due to lack of marriage cert.

Shall I give up on this one?