Find Ancestors

First of all, tell me, when I put messages on the board, I always seem to get 'Add' 'Delete' and the other one. How do I just get 'ADD'?

My brick wall.
I have a Leonard Mark Henley. He was born 13 May 1886, at 154 Lyndon Road, Bermondsey. I have the BC. His mother was Clara Emily Breacker, but she died in Mar Q 1894.

I have the family on the 1891 Census at 19 Barkworth Road, Camberwell RG12/492 Folio 22 Page 38.
Leonard was 4 and he had a sister Gertrude F. Henley, but she was from a previous wife, who - died

I cannot find Leonard Mark Henley on the 1901 or 1911 census.
He is NOT the one born in Hants in 1901 and 1911 census.

I am beginning to think he might have been adopted, and taken another name.

Leonard's father married 3 times 1) to Kate Willett m 1880. She died in 1883 with one child Gertrude F. Henley.
2nd marriage to Clara Emily Breacker, who is Leonard Mark Henley's mother. They married in Sept 1893. Yes 1893!!

Leonard's father, also Leonard married again to a Rose ?, but I cannot find their marriage.
I have them on the 1901 census at 33 East Dulwich Road, Camberwell RG13/501 Folio 88 Page 1.
I also have them on the 1911 census in Peckham,and they say they have been married for 17 years.

Lots of wives and lots of info I cannot find.
Can anyone help me please?
Many thanks
Jo

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1901 census transcription details for: Trent Mid Railway Refreshment Room, Long Eaton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3209 Folio: 129 Page: 32

Reg. District: Shardlow Sub District: Stapleford
Parish: Long Eaton Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Long Eaton St Lawrence City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Trent Mid Railway Refreshment Room, Long Eaton
County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
LUSCOTT, Sarah Head Single F 40 1861 Chief Bar Attendant
Leominster
Herefordshire
CHATTERTON, Esther Servant Single F 19 1882 Chief Bar Attendant
Southwark
London
BROKIN, Gertrude Servant Single F 24 1877 Chief Bar Attendant
Uttoxeter
Staffordshire
BOOTH, Eva Servant Single F 19 1882 Chief Bar Attendant
Mansfield Woodhouse
Nottinghamshire
HENLEY, Leonard Servant Single M 14 1887 Page Boy
South Bermondsey
Lincolnshire
BARNES, William Servant Single M 16 1885 Page Boy
Manchester
Lancashire
WHEELER, Alfred Servant Single M 16 1885 Page Boy
Birmingham
© findmypast.com

Could he be using the name JOHN?

1911 census transcription details for: 1st Oxfordshire Buckinghamshire Light Infantry, 1ST OXFORDSHIRE AND BUCKINGHAMSHIRE LIGHT INFANTRY, WELLINGTON, NILGIRIS, INDIA
Military details: Private 1st Oxf And Bucks Lt Infty
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN34987 RD641 SD12 ED13 SN9999

Reg. District: Sub District:
Parish: Enum. District: 13
Address: Wellington Nilgiris India
County: Military
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HENLY, John Single ? 24 1887 Bermondsey Surrey

Who's the John H in 1901? He's the same age.

Rose

possibly

1911

HOUSEHOLD HENLEY BESSIE E W F 1910 1 Stockbridge Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD HENLEY ELLEN W F 1891 20 Stockbridge Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD HENLEY LEONARD M 1887 Stockbridge Hampshire


Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hart Ellen Winnifred Winchester 2c 195
HENLEY Leonard Winchester 2c 195

Think Barbara has found him. Ancestry has him transcribed as Leanars Healey.

Rose

Hello Barbara

That could possibly be him on the 1901 census. Funnily enough, he does not come up on Ancestry, so is probably under another name.
He was born in Bermondsey. So very likely that is him.

Many thanks for your help
Jo

Rose

Just clicked on the purple button with a message to Barbara, but all 3 items came up!!

I will certainly look under Leonars Henley on Ancestry - thank you

Many thanks
Jo

Hello Choccy

My Leonard Henley is certainly getting around. First in Long Eaton, Derbys, and now possibly Winchester.
I sort of cut that one out of my mind, as it says b Stockbridge, but of course, they did not remember possibly where they were born, especially if their mother died young.
Think I have have to get a Marriage Certificate to check that one out properly

Many thanks for your help
Regards
Jo

Rose

John H. Henley is another son in the family. He was born 1887 Mar Q St. Olave 1d 305

Oddly enough, I don't seem to have him on the 1891 census, when he should be 4

This family is a real mess and in my computer programme, I have just put SORT THIS FAMILY OUT!!!! That is what I am trying to do

Many thanks for your help

Regards
Jo

John and Rose in 1891:

1891 England Census
about John Piercey
Name: John Piercey
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Sydenham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
Town: Sydenham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rose Piercey 29
John Piercey 4
Henry Billery Hurst 75 grandfather

Rose

Marriages Mar 1885
BILLINGHURST Rose Greenwich 1d 922
Piercey John Greenwich 1d 922

Rose

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Rose Billinghurst
Name: Rose Billinghurst
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: John Piercey
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Feb 1885
Parish: Saint John, Deptford
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Henry Billinghurst
Spouse Father Name: John Piercey

Rose

Rose

You have been very busy, Must print off your ideas and think about them.
Possibly Rose was Rose Piercey when she married my Leonard b1860 then in Bermondsey.
I am getting very confused.
Perhaps there is a marriage for Rose Piercey to Leonard Henley then?
Many many thanks for your help

Regards
Jo

Rose

I think you are right. 1891 census as you listed. I think the son I have on the 1901 census is Rose's from her marriage to John Piercey.
Have found a birth, which I think is more likely
John Henry Piercey 1886 June Q Lewisham 1d 1159.

I don't know what happened to his father ( John Piercey), as I cannot find a death for him which matches

I think when Leonard and Rose filled in the 1901 census,they put him down as a Henley, which he is not, unless he has changed his name by Deed Poll or something.

I have John Henly on the 1911 census given to me by Barbara in the Ligh t
Infantry in India.

Leonard Henley b 1860 has been a busy naughty boy!!

Thank you very much indeed for your detective work. How you found them on the 1891 census, which is the KEY, I shall never know!!

Regards
Jo

Everyone gets Edit/Delete/Add on their own posts, and other peoples posts only show Add. These are the options available to you - you can edit or delete your own posts, but only you can do this (well GR can delete objectionable posts, of course, but normally, it's only you) - and you can't edit or delete other people's posts (except as thread owner, you can delete the whole thread by deleting your first post), and everyone can add stuff - really add posts to the thread. Years ago, the add button did work - what it did was open a Reply box, pretty much like clicking on Reply does now.

Jo,

To find them in 1891 I search for John born 1887 in Sydenham with mother Rose.

Rose

mgnv

Thank you very much for solving my problem with the Edit/Delete/Add options. I did not realise that only showed up on my machine/posts, that is why I asked.
Thank you
Regards
Jo