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Possible 1st marriage of Edwin.....?

Marriages Dec 1926


Joynes Florence ..Martin ..Walsall 6b 1506
Martin Edwin J ..Joynes ..Walsall 6b 1506

and her death

Deaths Mar 1927

Martin Florence ..24 ..Walsall 6b 1030


Gwyn

From freebmd............

Marriages Sep 1930
Martin Edwin J .. Payne .. Walsall 6b 1781
Payne Rose ..Martin .. Walsall 6b 1781

Gwyn

Possible for birth of Jacob

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JACOB MARTIN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 SEP 1811 Saint Thomas The Apostle, Exeter, Devon, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ABRAHAM MARTIN Family
Mother: ELIZTH

Andy

Back ti 1851

1851 England Census
about Jacob Martin
Name: Jacob Martin
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Wednesbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 39
Ellen Martin 34
Rachael Martin 20
Abraham Martin 18
>>>>>Ellen Martin 4
Jacob Martin 2
Isaac Martin 20


I cannot find a marriage for Jacob and Ellen.


Also 1841

1841 England Census
about Jacob Martin
Name: Jacob Martin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wednesbury
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 30
Ellen Martin 25
Elizabeth Martin 13
Rachel Martin 10
Abraham Martin 3


How old was this Ellen when she married/had first child??


Andy

Here is Moses in census 1871 with his mother and grandparents

1871 England Census
about Moses Martin
Name: Moses Martin
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tettenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Martin 61 Retired confectioner born Exeter, Devon
Ellen Martin 55 born Liverpool
Ellen Fowls 24
Moses Martin 4 Grandson
Edwin Fowls 4 months Grandson

It would seem that Moses was born out of Wedlock to Ellen

Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
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Martin Moses Wolverhampton 6b 468


who then married

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Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)
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FOWLES Peter Wolverhampton 6b 599
Martin Ellen Wolverhampton 6b 599

I can find no trace of Peter in the census.

Andy

Hi Andy,

Thank you for all the information, although Edwin is not a blood line he is my Step grandad we were very close in the later years. He was my late dads step dad, my dad I think was about 5 when he married Rose. So yes please any information would be great. Thank you

I can trace the Martin line back to a birth in 1809 if you want the details.

Andy

Marriage for parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)
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Martin Moses Lichfield 6b 667
Neville Martha Lichfield 6b 667

Andy

He is Edwin J on marriage record and Edwin John on birth

1901 census with parents and siblings

1901 England Census
about Edwin John Martin
Name: Edwin John Martin
Age: 4 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Moses
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Moses Martin 34 Born Wolverhampton Currier Labourer (Leather worker, a Walsall speciality)
Martha Martin 31 born Lichfield
Charles Martin 12
William Martin 9
George H Martin 8
Mabel M Martin 5
Arthur H Martin 3
Edwin John Martin 4 months

Andy





Andy

TRYING TO FIND ANY INFO ON EDWIN MARTIN BORN 24/11/1900 MARRIED ROSE PAYNE (NEE WORLEY) ABOUT 1930 IT WAS HER 2ND MARRAIGE 1ST HUSBAND DECEASED. EDWIN WAS A RAILWAY PORTER AND CAME FROM THE WALSALL AREA. I WAS TOLD HE WAS MARRIED BEFORE TO SOMEONE BEFORE MARRING ROSE BUT SHE DIED, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ANY INFO ON BROTHERS SISTERS PARENTS ETC.
THANK YOU