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Ian
Sorry about delay in replying but was on my mobile broadband at my mothers so connection is not much good. I am home now so am on my pc with wireless connection so it it quicker. All the information seems to fit in perfectly. Howell and Kate had two sons, Brian and Malcolm. They do not know anything about their fathers past family as they were only young when Howell died. I am really looking forward to letting them know all the infomation that you have sent to me. Thanks again Sandra.

This is Rachel and her parents in 1881
1881 Wales Census
about Rachel Bateman
Name: Rachel Bateman
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 35 Market St
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Bateman 53 Founder at Blast - Furnace (Iron)
Ann Bateman 43
Thomas Bateman 15 Labourer
John Bateman 13
David Bateman 12
James Bateman 8
Martha Bateman 6
Rachel Bateman 5
Howell Bateman 2

This is Rachel with her parents and siblings before her marriage in 1891
1891 Wales Census
about Rachel Bateman
Name: Rachel Bateman
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dowlais, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais
Town: Dowlais
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Bateman 62
Ann Bateman 52
David Bateman 22
James Bateman 18
Martha Ann Bateman 16
Rachel Bateman 15
Howell Bateman 12
Evans Bateman 9


Looks like Howell Bateman Davies was named after Rachel's brother?

This is Rachel and Richard on the 1901 census with 2 of there children
1901 Wales Census
about Rachel Davies
Name: Rachel Davies
Age in 1901: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Richard R
Gender: Female
Where born: Glam, Dowlais

Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais St John
Town: Dowlais
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 164
Household Members: Name Age
Richard R Davies 27 Coal Hewer
Rachel Davies 25
Mary Davies 3
David Davies 4 months

Well his parents were
Richard Rees Davies and Rachel Bateman

This looks like Rachel's birth
Name: Rachel Bateman
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 448


And this looks like Richards birth
Name: Richard Rees Davies
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 429

Thanks for all your information it is much appreciated Sandra.

This could be the Jack you thought there was!
Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Davies Jack K Bateman Lewisham 1d 1989

Ian No sorry I do not know any names from his past. Sandra.

Forget that i take it this is their marriage!!
Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Bateman Rachel Merthyr T. 11a 792
Davies Richard Rees Merthyr Tydfil 11a 792

Thanks very much Ian, that has been very helpful and looks as if it is the right family. Thanks again.

Do you know Rachel (his mothers) maiden name?

ian
I looked that up on freebmd so you are correct.

This looks like him on the 1911 census with his family
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES CHARLES M 1910 6 MONTHS Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES DAVID M 1900 11 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES JOHN M 1906 5 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES RACHEL F 1876 35 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES RICHARD REES M 1874 37 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire
HOUSEHOLD DAVIES HOWELL BATEMAN M 1908 3 Merthyr Tydfil Glamorganshire

HAve you got him in the 1911 Census ?

I take it this is his birth
Name: Howell Bateman Davies
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 881

would anyone have any information about my uncle Howell Bateman Davies? He was reg. at biirth in Merthyr Wales in 1908. He married my aunt Kate Leggett in willesden London in 1933. I know nothing about his past. My mother (Kates sister)seems to remember that he may have had a brother Jack who also lived in or around willesden.
My mother is 90 years old so her memory is not all that good. If anyone has any innformation about my uncles past I would be very grateful. Sandra.