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Hi Elizabeth Shea marriage could be the one.I will also follow this up.You info has been a big help.I am now more in the picture,so to speak.. horse kicking door waiting to go out in now.fieldThanks

Hi.Misty.Silly me.the mind is becoming boggled with so much info I have on this.Yes I think you are right.Maybe George had a hadanode trouble when he said Laura or a bad cold,sounds like.oh dear being silly now.am dashing in and out between this feeding my horses.Being that we now know Laura for sure is my Grans sister.I will get her birth cert then hopefully can go back further on tree on both sides.probaly take me another three years.or I might phone gro and if Eliza Vol 1c Page 7 was born in December ,that I will take it as her.Thanks again.Pam

Hi Pamela

I'm still inclined to think the 1901 census could be the correct family....

If Eliza and William Henry did have a son William then he would have been younger than the other three, being born after the 1901 census was taken....

Bessy's ( Eliza Elizabeth ) birth could well have been registered in the first quater of 1888, as she was born in December the previous year, I have a couple in my tree where the same thing occured..

These are the only two births, for a William, I can see in that area....

Births Dec 1902
Hills William John Holborn 1b 690

Births Mar 1903
Hills William Charles R Holborn 1b 637

Misty x

Hi.Spoke to mum today.WILLIAM HILLS was younger than Laura.Bessy and Philip.so that census of Hills is out the window I think..

Hi.Yes Eliza was married twice and had a son William,mum never mentioned any other family but tthose I have mentioned.William Hill's married a Dotty and after the 2nd ww lived in Thornton Heath.Sy.had no children.I did see that census and also wondered if Laura was Norah.Bessy Prosser's birthday was 9.12.1897 so if the Eliza Elizabeth Prosser year of registration 1897 .quarter of reg Jan-feb-mar is also 1897 that this is not her.I have marriage cert for Bessy Elizabeth Prosser age 23 married 4th September 1920 residence at 20.Park St.Islington.Father George.Witness P.C.Prosser.occupation Brass finisher.Mum used to visit when she was a child, her granny then called Hill or Hills in Goswell Road.Islington.mum born in 1921.No Grandad was around then.Philip Prosser mum's uncle was a jeweller.Hope this helps.Mum said there was a french connection somewhere in the family !I did apply for birth cert Elizabeth Prosser born Hackney 1B470 PAGE 416 1889 but birth date did not match.

Ok here it is, I wonder if this is them, as you said there was a
William Hill's......could there have been a second marriage for Elizabeth, although I cant find a death for George, or a Hills - Prosser marriage!!.......could Norah be Laura??

Could be a million miles off course but dates do seem to tie in!!

Maybe William Henry and Elizabeth went on to have a son, William....



1901 England Census about Philip Hills
Name: Philip Hills
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Henry
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke, London, England
Civil parish: St Sepulchre Without Newgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Sepulchre
County/Island: London
Country: England

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Holborn

Name Age
William Henry Hills 49
Eliza Hills 36
Benjamin Hills 20
Catherine Hills 14
Philip Hills 13
Norah Hills 10
Bessey Hills 4

Poss marriage for George and Elizabeth

Marriages Mar 1885

PROSSER George Bethnal Green 1c 506
Shea Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 506


And for birth of Bessy Elizabeth

Births Mar 1897
Prosser Eliza Elizabeth London C. 1c 7


Misty x

Hi Pamela

Yes it should tell you her mothers maiden name....

When I was looking for your " lot " the other night I came acroos something in 1901...not sure if my " feeling " was correct but shall put it on here, see what you think....

Be back in a while, once I've found it again....

Misty x

I have been trying to find this family on the Prosser side for a g e s .If I get the birth Cert for LAURA PROSSER will it tell me her parents maiden names being 1891 please. as I can not find them anywhere in 1901/1911 census.Thanks.

Thank you very very much for that info a big help.

This could be the family....

1891
Name: Philip Prosser
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke, London, England
Civil parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: London
County/Island: London
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Whitecross Street

Name Age
George Prosser 30....London City
Elizabeth Prosser 29...St Luke, London....Tie Maker
Philip Prosser 3
Phillip Prosser 8/12******wrong

The Philip 8/12 is a mistranscription....on the original there is no childs name given but it is a Daughter, 2 mths

Misty x

Could these be the ones your looking for......

Name: Ivy L Edwards
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Prosser
District: Holborn
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 1073

Name: Winifred C Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Prosser
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919
Registration district: Holborn
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1159


Name: Victor G Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Prosser
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1916
Registration district: Holborn
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 940

Name: George W Edwards
Mother's Maiden Surname: Prosser
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1922
Registration district: Holborn
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1106


Laura's birth?

Name: Laura Elizabeth Prosser
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Holborn
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 814

And Philips?

Name: Philip Claud Prosser
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Holborn
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 726

And Elizabeth ( Bessy)?

Name: Eliza Elizabeth Prosser
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 7



Misty x

Trying to find Victor, b.1916,George b 1917, Lulu could this be Louisa b 1914 and Wyne b 1919 .Edwards..I think they lived in east or north.London.Mother Laura had a sister Bessy Elizabeth and Brother Philip C all formerly Prosser'sLaura married Edwards 1912 Holborn Vol.1b,There was a stepbrother William Hill or Hills who was married to a Dotty and they lived in Thornton Heath.Surrey after being bombed out of Islington.London