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I've been told by expert that Cornelius Taylor, father of my late mother in law May Rosina Taylor, could have been born in Ireland, also May, as we cannot get a birth cert for her and cannot find her in 1901 and 1911 census.
On her marriage cert in 1918, May states her father was Cornelius Taylor, occupation - engineer.
Can anyone point me in the right direction re Ireland please?
Thanks.
Ruth Saunders

Which census do you mean? UK? Or Irish?

How old was she when she married?

Which area did she marry and live? It could also be that her father was deceased and she just said by memory or made up a father.

May's birth date is given on her death cert. by eldest son as 13.10.1897, supposed to have been born in Leyton/Leytonstone area of London. But ONS cannot find her. She was 21 when she got married in March 1918 to Albert Saunders. May died 1982.
I've tried 1901 and 1911 England and Wales census without any success.
The other thing is my husband can remember being told she was brought up by an aunt and uncle.
I just don't know how to research Irish connections, which GR expert thinks this maybe the case.

Thanks for your help.

The Irish 1911 census is online - google for link

'GR expert'? Who is that, please?

Who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Did May give an occupation for herself?

Wife'as name Rose so maybe the Rosina connection

1911 census transcription details for: 5 Maple Road Grays
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN9969 RG78PN524 RD192 SD1 ED18 SN100

Reg. District: Orsett Sub District: Grays
Parish: Grays Thurrock Enum. District: 18
Address: 5 Maple Road Grays
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
TAYLOR, William Henry Head Married
29 years M 54 1857 Blacksmith And Farrier Orsett Essex
TAYLOR, Rosa Wife Married F 55 1856 Sth Ockenden Essex
TAYLOR, Henry Son Single M 28 1883 Window Cleaner Croydon Surry
TAYLOR, Clara Daughter Single F 18 1893 Domestic Servant Leytonstone Essex
TAYLOR, May Daughter F 14 1897 No Occupation Leytonstone Essex

May's birth date is given on her death cert. by eldest son as 13.10.1897, supposed to have been born in Leyton/Leytonstone area of London. But ONS cannot find her. She was 21 when she got married in March 1918 to Albert Saunders. May died 1982.
I've tried 1901 and 1911 England and Wales census without any success.
The other thing is my husband can remember being told she was brought up by an aunt and uncle.
I just don't know how to research Irish connections, which GR expert thinks this maybe the case.
Also another funny thing is the address May gives on her marriage cert. is 7 Pearcroft Rd, E11, which on previous discoveries, I'm told, 2 Taylor families lived there, Herbert Taylor, 1910, and then Henry George Taylor and Annie at the time of Mays marriage, but alas, cannot find connection with Henry and Annie Taylor.
Thanks for your help and interest.


Thanks for your help.

Anthony Adolph was the GR expert who thinks there maybe an Irish connection.

Witnesses at wedding were a J H Taplin, and a M. Taplin. I've already contacted a GR member who has Taplin family to see if he knew anything about a May Taylor, no luck though.

Thanks Barbara for census info. I only wish they gave second names on census.

Father's name was Henry for that one

1901 census

Name: May Taylor
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Rosa
Gender: Female
Where born: Leytonstone, Essex, England

Civil parish: Cann Hall
Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone St Margaret
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: South Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Taylor 45 ,,,,,,,Occupation: Blacksmith
Rosa Taylor 46
Herbert Taylor 24 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Henry Taylor 19<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Alfred Taylor 16
Agnes Taylor 14
Blanche Taylor 12
Caroline Taylor 11
Clara Taylor 8
May Taylor 5

Address: 75, Cobbold Road

21 in May 1918 - born before May 1897

Thanks for latest info. I did wonder re. 1901 census, Cann Hall area is near 7 Pearcroft Rd. Looking at other members of the family, May didn't use these names for her own children though.

Is that correct "21 in May 1918 - born before May 1897". Marriage cert was 23rd March 1918. Strange though she doesn't give her occupation at time of wedding, maybe she's the one at Grays, Essex, 1911 Census, no occupation.

Yes, the birth calculation is correct - if she told the truth on her marriage cert

IF she'd been born, as her son thought, in October 1897, she would not have been 21 until Oct 1918 - think of your own birth - and when you reached 21.

Have you done anything about looking at the 1911 Irish census?

No, I haven't tried 1911 Census yet, just been dashing to and fro keeping husband informed of all your info. for which he thanks you both.

If I do find May, I'll certainly post it on this board.

Again many thanks for your help this afternoon.

Ruth

From past info about AA - I think he suggests an 'Irish connection' whenever he gets stuck

Yes, he said it sounds like as if there is an Irish connection due to the name Cornelius Taylor. Mind you my husband has a middle name of Patrick, you couldn't get more Irish than that eh!

Ruth