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Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 19:09
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	well this is one of them Deceased detail SurnameWinders ForenameWilliam Death date00 / 00 / 0000 Burial date07 / 11 / 1922 LocationSt Helens Cemetery Register Number64997 Age57 Years Grave detail Grave referenceSTHELCEM / 7 / 783
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:57
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Deceased detail SurnameWinders ForenameBarbara Death date00 / 00 / 0000 Burial date24 / 07 / 1923 LocationSt Helens Cemetery Register Number65833 Age53 Years Grave detail Grave referenceSTHELCEM / 7 / 783
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:52
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	aha found this in a very old thread This would be William's son born 1894 Hello Susan I guess you have the following information from the StHelens MBC website. If not, there is a 'Grave Reference' STHELCEM/44/988 which lists William, Maud and Jean Winders and Ellen Callaghan. Check out under 'Deceased Search' or 'Burial Record' on www.sthelens.gov.uk Perhaps this might help - I also seem to remember the name Winders around the Dentons Green area in the '50s. Good luck in your search Austin Whiteside
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:34
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Thanks Dea AS Stevie LancasireAnn.etc I will be working tomorrow but will be back on line tomorrow night Londn time. I will try to make contact with the other person who may be connected.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:19
	Sorry - HAVE to go off-line now. Will look again tomorrow! Dea Xxx
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:19
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	1861 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, John Address: Park Road, Parr WINDERS, John Head Married M 36 1825 Coal Miner Whiston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Mary Wife Married F 32 1829 Formerly Laundress Knowsley Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Eliza Daughter F 10 1851 Whiston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Ellen Daughter F 8 1853 Whiston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, George Son M 6 1855 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Margaret Daughter F 0 (7M) 1861 St Helens Lancashire
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:18
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Looking in 1861 for John who may be glass splitter or collier For reference this is my line (LadyKira) 1861 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, John Address: Broad Oak, Parr WINDERS, John Head Married M 41 1820 Bricklayer Sutton Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Ann Wife Married F 38 1823 Bricklayers Wife Burtonwood Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, William Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Appentice To A Bricklayer Burtonwood Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, David Son M 11 1850 Scholar Burtonwood Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Harriet Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Burtonwood Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Mary A Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar Sutton Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1859 Sutton Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, John Son M 0 (1M) 1861 Parr Lancashire
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:03
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	A few oother unreadable entries. Unfortunately my home computer will not allow me took look at the original images. Must take that up with them. 1871 census - household transcription Person: ???, William Address: ???, Eccleston, St Helen ???, William ? M 4 1867 VIEW
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 18:01
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	same in 1871 1871 census - household transcription Person: ???, William Address: St Thomas Street, Eccleston, St Helen ???, William Son M 2 1869 Lancashire 1871 census - household transcription Person: ???, William Address: ???, Eccleston, St Helen ???, William ? M Lancashire 1871 census - household transcription Person: ???, William Address: ???, Eccleston, St Helen ???, John D ? M Lancashire VIEW ???, William ? M Lancashire VIEW ???, Mary J ? F Lancashire 1871 census - household transcription Person: ???, William Address: ??? Russell Street, Eccleston, St Helen ???, William ? M Lancashire VIEW
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:55
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	I have searched for William surname blank born prescot plus or minus 3 in 1881 Nothing that stands out.
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:44
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	1871 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: Eccleston Lane Ends, Eccleston 1881 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: Kiln Houses, Eccleston compared with 1891 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, Ellen Address: 19, Grafton Street, Eccleston, St Helens so the location is right. BUT 1891 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: 90, Eccleston Street, Eccleston, St Helens WINDERS, William Head Married M 26 1865 Coal Miner St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Barbara Wife Married F 21 1870 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Mary E Daughter F 2 1889 St Helens Lancashire 1901 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: 32, Havelock Street, St Helens WINDERS, William Head Married M 36 1865 Coal Hewer (Underground) Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Barbara Wife Married F 31 1870 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Mary E Daughter F 12 1889 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1895 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Barbara Daughter F 4 1897 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Maggie Daughter F 2 1899 St Helens Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, John Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901 St Helens Lancashire 1911 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: 54 Eccleston Street St Helens WINDERS, William Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Hewer Parish Eccleston Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Barbara Wife Married 23 years F 42 1869 St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Barbara Daughter Single F 14 1897 St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Maggie Daughter Single F 12 1899 School St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, John Son Single M 10 1901 School St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, William Son Single M 8 1903 School St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Annie Daughter Single F 2 1909 St Helens Lancs VIEW WINDERS, Richard Son Single M 0 (2 MONTH) 1911 St Helens Lancs VIEW PIGGOT, Isaac Boarder Single M 50 1861 Labourer General St Helens Lancs So this one is most likely The William and Barbara born 1865 1881 census - household transcription Person: WINDERS, William Address: Kiln Houses, Eccleston WINDERS, John Head Married M 46 1835 Coal Miner Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 36 1845 Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, William Son Single M 16 1865 Coal Miner Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Mary E Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Eccleston Lancashire VIEW WINDERS, John Son Single M 3 1878 Eccleston Lancashire
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:26
	Good!! - because I think it is a 'possible' Dea x
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	Susan	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:26
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 32 Send Message	This is the possible marriage for William and Elizabeth Marriage: 5 Sep 1864 Christ Church, Eccleston, Lancashire, England John Winders - (X), 25 Collier Bachelor of Eccleston Elizabeth Durdham - (X), 20 Spinster of Eccleston Groom's Father: William Winders, Collier Bride's Father: Ralph Durdham, Collier Witness: Thomas Wareing, (X); Martha Wareing, (X) Married by Banns by: R.P.Crockett Register: Marriages 1840 - 1868, Page 165, Entry 329 Source: LDS Film 1657566
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 8,905 Send Message	LadyKira	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:08
	before I go Dea I have not discounted that one. People got work where they could.
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 8,905 Send Message	LadyKira	Report	31 Jan 2010 17:06
	I have traced all of the children through the censuses. etc . I have looked at lancashire OPC site. I will look at Ellen slightl later I think because I will need to delete half her tree and I want to rebuild the correct one. Hang on Aunty I will have to come on as her. next post will be as Susan. I do have her permission.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	31 Jan 2010 16:58
	That is the one you have discounted because his father was a collier??? Baptisms: 2 Apr 1865 Christ Church, Eccleston, Lancashire, England William Winders - Child of John Winders & Elizabeth Abode: Eccleston Occupation: Collier Baptised by: R.P.Crockett Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1880, Page 101, Entry 802 Source: LDS Film 1657566 Dea x
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 8,905 Send Message	LadyKira	Report	31 Jan 2010 16:55
	Question LK. Are you using a site which enables you to check addresses connected to the census. If you are I won't go there. Answer I use Findmypast and can search addresses. .
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 5,757 Send Message	lancashireAnn	Report	31 Jan 2010 16:52
	1887 marriage of William & Ellen from parish registers - note name of Ellen's father Marriage: 22 Aug 1887 St Peter, Parr, Lancashire, England William Winders - (X), 19 Miner Bachelor of Parr Ellen Taylor - 19 Spinster of Parr Groom's Father: John Winders, Glass Maker Bride's Father: Thomas Smith, Labourer Witness: William Johnson; Mary Taylor, (X) Married by Banns by: A. A. Nunn Register: Marriages 1879 - 1894, Page 116, Entry 231 Source: LDS Film 1849640 sorry just realised this was on the first post but will leave it here for ref
	Researching: Liverpool (Cartwright, Chambers, Miller), Todmorden (Sutcliffe, Mallison), Abergavenny (Watkins, Prosser)
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 8,905 Send Message	LadyKira	Report	31 Jan 2010 16:48
	Name: William Winders Birth: Mar 1865 - Prescot, Lancashire That is the most likely birth in terms of location but is not this one
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 8,905 Send Message	LadyKira	Report	31 Jan 2010 15:12
	Just to give you an idea about this tree. She has the marriage certificate for William and Ellen. On her tree she has put the parents as Charles and Elizabeth????????

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