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I have the marriage certificate for William Fardell. aged 21, married, November 1910. It gives his fathers name as William Louis Fardell, Deceased. Occ. Blacksmith. I cannot find either of these two people on 1891, 1901, 1910, census. Neither can I find a death record for William Louis Fardell. I have searched the BMD records between 1890 and 1910. I am obviously missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Linda,

Where did they hail from please?

Regards Vera

The marriage certificate says West Ham, and from what I believe Canning Town, is where they all came from.

Thanks

1911?


1911 census - household transcription
Person: FARDELL, William J
Address: 32 Sidney St Tidal Basin E


FARDELL, William Head Married M 20 1891 Laberer Bow Common VIEW
FARDELL, Elizabeth P Wife F 18 1893 House Wife Canning Town VIEW
FARDELL, William J Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Canning Town VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9492 Reference:
RG14PN9492 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED22 SN208

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Canning Town EnumerationDistrict:
22 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
32 Sidney St Tidal Basin E County:
Essex

Thanks K.

That is the census I can find, but I am trying to find William's parents. I thought that by sending for the marriage certificate for William and Elizabeth, it would give me William's father, which it does, but it says he is deceased.
When? Where? and why can't I find a death record for him, or cannot find William with his parents on any of the census records.

Sorry - should have noticed reference to 1910. If he was born post April in 1891 he would only have a chance of being with his parents in 1901. Will keep looking!

William was aged 21 on his marriage certificate, and he married 5th November 1910, so by my calculations he would / could have been born around 1898/9

Thanks for your help......getting quite frustrated with this.!

Oops think that year of birth calculation is out by 10 years

oops....think you are right.....should be 1888/9....

Who were the witnesses?

He lied about his age when he married so he didn't need parental consent. Could be he lied about his father's name too.

Rose

witnesses were Keate Leaves and Albert Bates.

Thanks everyone, but I really feel that the father on the marriage certificate, William Louis Fardell, is definitely correct. Those names have been continued on down the line since then. If I could just find him on the census, I would know who he married, and then have both parents.

There are no William L Fardells anywhere on Ancestry.

Rose

Thanks so much Rose, at least I know I am not going barmy.!! So where to go from this. Best I get my thinking cap on.

I keep coming back to this birth and an adopted son in 1901 who was born in Bow. Am sure the latter is a red herring, but it is a thought

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1890 (>99%)

Fardell William James Poplar 1c 629

1901
Name: William Fradley
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Adopted
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, London, England

Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard Bromley
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Fradley 59
Sophia Fradley 56
Robert Fradley 25
Alice Fradley 27
William Fradley 12

His first child was called William J:

Births Mar 1911
Fardall William J W. Ham 4a 158

and he died as William J:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about William J Fardell
Name: William J Fardell
Death Registration Month/Year: 1937
Age at death (estimated): 46
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 80

Rose

Thanks everyone for your help. Will consider the adoption, and also that is the correct death Rose. Thanks again

Linda,

What does the J stand for?

Rose

hi linda

i have had the same problem hope we can help each other out

please may i see your tree

alison