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hHi Anybody out there................ Been sat on here hours looking for my great great grandads parents>Robert Mower born 1805 Norfolk East Dereham. He was married to a ann. Please help Kay

Dear Kay

Hello

Births, marriages and deaths only began to be formally registered in 1837.

This is from the 1841 census:

Name: Robert Mower
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil parish: East Dereham
Hundred: Launditch and Mitford
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Mitford
Sub-registration district: East Dereham

Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Robert Mower 36
Ann Mower 35

Ann Mower 10
Susan Mower 6
Charles Mower 5
Mary Mower 1

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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 780; Book: 3; Civil Parish: East Dereham; County: Norfolk; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 28; Page: 15; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438864.

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To see what parish records are available for Norfolf such as baptisms and marriages, you would need to contact the archive and history service for that area.

A lot of people get their info from CD-ROMS.

Hope this helps

Best wishes

Hi Kay,

Could be them in 1881.

Robert MOWER Head M Male 76 Norfolk, England Agent For Sale Of Wool
Mary A. MOWER Wf M Female 70 Bedford, England

Dwelling 3 Lavender Grove
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341064
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0300 / 14
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I wonder if this is the Son in 1881

William MOWER Head W Male 33 Langley, Norfolk, England Railway Carman
Charles MOWER Son U Male 9 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar
Elizabeth MOWER Daur U Female 10 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling No 20 King Street
Census Place Norwich St Stephen, Norfolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341469
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1947 / 9

1861 census in Norwich Heigham


Robert Mower 56
Ann Mower 54
Susan Mower 27
> Mary Mower 22
> William Mower 15
> John Mower 13
Susan Mower 11
Sarah Mower 10
Amelia Mower 11Mo
Hannah Mower 8Mo


The ones I've marked > are children of Robert and Ann, born after 1837, in East Dereham (registration district Mitford).

Getting a birth certificate for one of them would give you Ann's surname, if that's one thing you'd like to know.


http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

search for births, surname Mower, reg dist Mitford, 1838-1851, say.

I see a William in 1846 who might be your surest bet.

Sometimes FreeReg has got what you need (it's a work in progress):

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

I searched for marriages, name Robert Mower.

County Norfolk
Place East Dereham
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 413
MarriageDate 19 Oct 1830
GroomForename Robert
GroomSurname MOWER
GroomAge
GroomParish Westfield
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Ann
BrideSurname BATTERBEE
BrideAge
BrideParish East Dereham
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Robert
WitnessOneSurname MEACHEN
WitnessTwoForename Sarah
WitnessTwoSurname CHAPLEN
Notes Banns. The groom and bride signed. The witnesses signed.
FileNumber 769


(I've left all the blank fields in to show what info was *not* in the parish register)


If you search at FreeReg for births 1840 +/- 10 years, name Robert Mower, it will find the births of all of the children of Robert Mower and Ann in East Dereham 1831-1849. (One I checked shows Ann's surname, and the records state his occupation as shoemaker.)

Then make the search 1805 +/- 5 years, to look for his own birth, and ditto for Ann Batterbee. Actually, make it +/- 10 years -- because you will find Ann being baptised quite a long time after she was born, and it wil give you her parents' full names. I'll let you have the fun of that one (and searching for other Mower and Batterbee siblings and so on maybe) for yourself!

For instance, select county Norfolk, parish East Dereham, and just look around for Mower and Batterbee baptisms, marriages and burials ...

Hi
Yes thanks for that info. The one posted by Alison i dont belive is my Robert Mower Or i hope not , it dosnt tally with the rest of my tree. (Or i hope not). I think Robert died age 71 with my findings.Amelia and Hannah are down as granddaughters im wondering Robert and Anns ? Whos childeren ? . Looking through the census they dont seem to be any trace of none of them why is this? It is very mind boggoling
Kay

1805 dob here on the 1881 census

Robert MOWER Head M Male 76 Norfolk, England Agent For Sale Of Wool
Mary A. MOWER Wf M Female 70 Bedford, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Lavender Grove
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341064
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0300 / 14
Page Number 21

connection? 1881

David MOWER Head M Male 50 Huntingfield, Suffolk, England Coachman
Elizabeth MOWER Wife M Female 52 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Robert MOWER Son U Male 17 Norwich, Norfolk, England Servant (D)
Mary E. MOWER Daur Female 13 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling York Street
Census Place Heigham, Norfolk, England
Family History Library Film 1341469
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1950 / 101
Page Number 1

I am now confused wondering if i have the right Robert in my tree , sll i no is the Robert i need is he had a son John Mower he was my grear grandad. I have found Amelia Mower in the same family names as mune that conect but to my amazment there is a 10 year differance1861 census she down as 11 month old , in the 1871 she down as 21onfusing or what
Kay

Hi
John Mowers Mother and father i am looking for
John Mower born 1851 Norwich Norfolk. 50 years old on 1901 census living in Leeds Hunslet. Any help
Kay

Kay, you do have to read the info in the thread.

I gave you the 1861 census for your people, in Norfolk:

Robert Mower 56
Ann Mower 54
Susan Mower 27
> Mary Mower 22
> William Mower 15
> John Mower 13
Susan Mower 11
Sarah Mower 10
Amelia Mower 11Mo
Hannah Mower 8Mo

The three people I've pointed at are children of Robert and Ann who were born in East Dereham.

I gave you the marriage record for ROBERT MOWER and ANN BATTERBEE.

I told you how to find the births of all their children at the FreeREG site:

"If you search at FreeReg for births 1840 +/- 10 years, name Robert Mower, it will find the births of all of the children of Robert Mower and Ann in East Dereham 1831-1849. (One I checked shows Ann's surname, and the records state his occupation as shoemaker.)"

I also explained that you would find the birth/baptism of Ann Batterbee (Robert Mower's wife, John Mower's mother) at that site.

But I didn't find the birth/baptism of Robert Mower there yet. Volunteers are doing the transcribing of *all parish records* in England, and that is a huge undertaking.

Don't you want to do a little of the searching yourself?? With the directions I gave, it really is quite easy, and quite fun.

Really, it's no good to repeat the questions over again when the answers are all here!

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