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Found mary's death cert and gives husband as john robertson coalminer.
She died 8th july 1894 signed by her son crawford.
So he must still have been alive.
I have looked on scotlands people but as you said rootgatherer there is a lot of john robertson's

heather

Yes, he is his father. Here's William's details from that 1851 census. With a bit of luck he will have lived until 1855 and you can get his death on SP!!


Name: William Robertson
Age: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1775
Relationship: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Govan, Renfrew
Parish Number: 627
Civil parish: Cambuslang
Town: Silverbank
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Silverbank
Occupation: Pauper (cobernine)

Thanks for the help
I noticed in the 1951 census they had a william robertson staying with them, could this be his father


heather

It doesn't mean that John and Susan didn't marry just because they are not recorded in the OPRs on Scotlandspeople. The OPRs are mainly Church of Scotland records so if they attended a different church they may not have had their marriage recorded on the Church of Scotland records.

If John died after 1855, then you may get his parents names from his death certificate - if the informant knew. It could be a long search as there will be so many John Robertsons. Look for the death of his second wife first as you can use both Robertson and her maiden surname to search. Her death certificate will tell you if she is "married to" or "widow of" John Robertson. This will narrow the search years for John's death.

Good Luck.

I have found john's marriage to mary but gives no info on him or his family.
Have i got to a dead end?

Heather

Thanks potty will have a look for their marriage on scotlands people.

Heather

Scotlandspeople has a death for Susan Robertson in 1849 in Cambuslang.

looks like Mary was first married to David Muir:

AGNES MUIR Pedigree
:
Christening: 25 SEP 1842 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

Parents:
Father: DAVID MUIR Family
Mother: MARY MCBLAINE

John and Mary's marriage:

JOHN ROBERTSON Pedigree

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MCBLAINE Family
Marriage: 12 FEB 1850 Cambuslang, Lanark, Scotland

There is also a submitted record on familysearch for Crawford with parents John Robertson and Mary McBlaine.

Could Susan have died. This looks like the 1841 children in 1851 - the Muir children are listed as step-children:

1851 Scotland Census
about John Robertson
Name: John Robertson
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Name: William
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number: 627
Civil parish: Cambuslang
Town: Silverbank
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Silverbank
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 1
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 9
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1851_150
Household Members: Name Age
John Robertson 39
Mary Robertson 35
Jean Robertson 12
Robert Robertson 13
John Robertson 10
Andrew Robertson 8
Isabella Robertson 2
Crawford Robertson 8 Mo
Agnes Miur 7
John Miur 4
William Robertson 76

Is it possible they weren't married?

Heather

Kath
thank you very much very greatful for all your help.
Sorry haven't replied sooner.

Heather

This is the only marriage I can find so far.

JOHN ROBERTSON Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH PATERSON Family
Marriage: 19 SEP 1830 Foveran, Aberdeen, Scotland



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Kath

Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
ROBERTSON, William
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1830
Birthplace: , Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John ROBERTSON
Mother: Susan PATERSON

Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
ROBERTSON, Jean
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1833
Christening Date: 12 Jan 1834
Father: John ROBERTSON
Mother: Susan PATERSON

Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland
ROBERTSON, Isabella
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 May 1836
Christening Date: 12 Jun 1836
Father: John ROBERTSON
Mother: Susanna PATERSON

Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland
ROBERTSON, Andrew
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1843
Christening Date: 17 Dec 1843
Father: John ROBERTSON
Mother: Susan PATERSON

Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland
ROBERTSON, David
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1846
Christening Date: 21 Jun 1846
Father: John ROBERTSON
Mother: Susan PATERSON

Hi Heather,
Haven't found the marriage yet but have found their children.

WILLIAM ROBERTSON 1830 RUTHERGLEN
JEAN/JANE ROBERTSON B. 1834 RUTHERGLEN
ROBERT ROBERTSON B.1838 CAMBUSLANG
JOHN ROBERTSON B. 1841 CAMBUSLANG
ANDREW ROBERTSON B. 1843 CAMBUSLANG
DAVID ROBERTSON B. 1846 CAMBUSLANG
ISABEL ROBERTSON 1848 CAMBUSLANG.

This is part of the family in 1841


Name: John Robertson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Silver Banks
Occupation: Coal M
Parish Number: 627
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Robertson 25
Susan Robertson 25
William Robertson 11
Robert Robertson 3
John Robertson 1
Janes Robertson 7

It states that Susan was born in Lanarkshire around 1816 but the only one I can find around that time is SUSAN PATERSON 1814
EAST KILBRIDE LANARKSHIRE.
If this is your Susan, she would have been just 16 when William was born.
It is a possibility that they didn't marry until she was older but I'll have another look.

Kath

looking for marriage of john robertson and susan paterson they had a son william born on the 15th dec 1830 in rutherglen scotland.
Have looked on scotlands people for a marraige but cannot find.
I am greatfull for any help.


thanks heather