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Josiah Thomas Jones/Hilary Athelone Jones

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Peter

Peter Report 2 Apr 2010 23:01

Can anyone please help me find a marriage between Josiah Thomas Jones b.March 1906 in Tredegar, Monmouth, Wales and Hilary Athelone Jones b.1930 (place unknown)?

Thanks,

Peter

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Apr 2010 23:22

and Jones in Wales is a needle in a haystack job unless you can give more information

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 2 Apr 2010 23:23

Peter doesn't know where the marriage took place. But I can't find one anywhere anyway.

Peter

Peter Report 2 Apr 2010 23:25

Yes Michael,

This apparently is her second marriage. Her first was to Paul Jules Emile Boonzaier. (I can't find this also) By the way, her second name should read Athlone.

Thanks

Peter

patchem

patchem Report 2 Apr 2010 23:27

Do you mean the marriage is between Josiah Jones and Hilary Boonzaier?
Thanks

Peter

Peter Report 2 Apr 2010 23:30

Apparently Hilary's third marriage was to Stan Page (1921 - 1997)

Paul Jules lived 1911 - 1984

Peter

Peter

Peter Report 2 Apr 2010 23:33

You know Patricia, It didn't occur to me to look under Boonzaier! (Wally!)I Hope I haven't wasted everyone's time?

Peter

Peter

Peter Report 2 Apr 2010 23:42

Just checked Ancestry, whilst there are several Boonzaiers, couldn't find Hilary though

Peter

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 2 Apr 2010 23:54

Eeh lad, you're 'avin us on!

Please give us some evidence cos I can't find any.

Peter

Peter Report 3 Apr 2010 00:17

It certainly looks like that Madmeg! I can't find anything too!

My info comes from a living son of Josiah Thomas Jones.

Josiah's parents were Bedlington Jones (b. 1882) and Susannah Nash (b.1884)

Josiah's birth details are: b.1906 in Bedwelty District of Monmouth, volume 11a: page: 113:

Sadly I have no further details of Hilary Athlone Jones (b.1930)

Peter

patchem

patchem Report 3 Apr 2010 00:37

Any possibility that they married abroad, as Boonzaier is a South African name?

Peter

Peter Report 3 Apr 2010 19:44

I think, Patricia, that Josiah spent some time in South Africa but I was not aware that he married Hilary there.

Is there a way of checking South African BMD's?

Peter

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Apr 2010 20:14

I sort of made the assumption that Hilary was born Jones - am I wrong?

This Stanley Page sounds a nice ordinary chap - but I can't find any marriage to a Jones that fits. Are Stanley and Hilary still alive? EDIT, no you said he died 1997 - where?

What happened to her other husbands? Died, Divorced, Beheaded or Survived?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Apr 2010 20:35

I googled Boonzaier. A website has this Boonzaier:

Paul Jules Emile b. 20.7.1912 d. 13.5.1984 m. (first) …. (second) …..

There is nothing to tell me what first and second mean, but I'm guessing it means he married twice.

How sure is the living relative of all this? Families tell stories that get distorted along the way. Has this relative got his/her own birth certificate showing the parents? Who were they? Was s/he a Boonzaier, a Jones or a Page?

Peter

Peter Report 3 Apr 2010 22:20

Hi Madmeg,

I don't have many answers to your questions however, Yes, Hilary was born a Jones: I don't know where Stanley died: The husband I am particularly interested in is Josiah Thomas Jones (b. March 1906 Tredegar d. 12 June 1989): I guess the first and second against Paul Jules would mean a marriage with Hilary:

The living son of Josiah has given to me a three page history of his lineage which of course, includes his parents and children. I can PM it to you if you are interested.?

Thanks for your help,

Peter

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 4 Apr 2010 00:03

I'll send you a pm with my email addy.

I asked, does this relative have his/her own birth certificate and who were the parents? And if not, are you able to get it, or PM me with the information (not sensible to put info re living relatives on this board) and I'll have a hunt.

So am I right in thinking that Hilary Page is no longer alive, or don't you know?

Either these marriages were all overseas, or they changed their names for whatever reason, or they never actually married.

Well, that's how it seems.

Margaret