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Trying to find Lucy Bennett

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Sandra

Sandra Report 8 Apr 2010 11:45

JaneyCanuck - I am sorry if I have upset you with the other thread I did state at the beginning of this one that I had another thread going. I am VERY NEW to this and this is the first time I have used GR message board.
When I went to the Archives Library yesterday I discovered that there are several houses/farms in Shropshire called Brookhouse so she may have been born there - I will never know. the only info I have that I have that leads me to believe she was born in Shropshire is the fact that she had her daughter here in 1884 and was married here also died here. Thank you for the info above I didn't close down last night until after 10 so could not reply to your comments.
I have noted all the above - thank you
Sandra

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Apr 2010 23:38

Sandra, you are also seeking help elsewhere on the net, and not keeping your info at this site up to date. This is rather unfair.

http://www.sfhs.org.uk/aspboard/asp_SFHS_BoardDetail.asp?Id=62022

"Re the name McGliston there is a married Annie McGliston in the 1901 census living with her mother Mary Habberley at 108 Belle Vue Rd. (she was born in Condover 1868,) living next door 110 Belle Vue Rd. is Gertrude Shotton who was the other witness at the wedding!!!"

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Apr 2010 22:32

Not gonna try to muddle my way through the other 8-page thread, so this is probably repetition.

1901

Name: Lucy Shotton
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Where born: Brookhouse, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Condover
County/Island: Shropshire

William Shotton 45
Lucy Shotton 39
Annie Bennett 6


Mmmm ... there is no Brookhouse in Shropshire.

The image says "ditto" for Salop (Shropshire) in William's entry above, and clearly says Brookhouse after that. (Note also that it states her age as 39.)

There's a Brookhouse in Lancashire, and the censuses also show people with birthplaces of Brookhouse in Yorkshire and Staffordshire.


What other info do you have that she was born in Shropshire?

This is her entry in 1911? --

SHOTTON LUCY 1868 43 Atcham Shropshire

What place of birth does it give?

Answer from p.1 of the other thread: born Lyth Hill Salop

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 7 Apr 2010 22:15

Board rule: one post per subject. Starting a new one on TTF when there is a long one on Surname Info -- not fair, and not done.

I remembered the name Shotton from another thread I now can't find. But there's this one

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1215268

looking for a witness on the marriage certificate:

"That is exactly as it is spelt on the marriage certificate [McGlister, the witness].
(Louisa Bennett and William Shotton - again)"

Sandra, you know where all your threads are and what they say. Nobody else does.


For info, the 1881 Lousia Bennett is transcribed as "Louisa BERNETT" at Ancestry in 1871. I'd wondered whether she was a child of Mary before marriage or to a different marriage, but it seems not.

What's interesting in the 1871 household though is the long gap between the child aged 13 and the child aged 5 (with parents aged 49), and the order the children are entered in.

John Bernett 49
Mary Bernett 49
Hannah Bernett 25
Charles Bernett 17
Sarah Bernett 13
Jane Bernett 5 - born Tasley
Louisa Bernett 3 - born Tasley
Robert Bernett 4 - born Bridgnorth
John Bernett 7 - born Tasley
William Bernett 8 - born Tasley

I would wonder whether the younger children weren't really grandchildren -- possibly two separate batches, or possibly Jane Louisa actually were daughters and the 3 boys grandchildren. . Possibly born with different surnames.

The household in 1861:

John Bennett 36
Mary Bennett 37
Hannah Bennett 16
Thomas Bennett 11
Charles Bennett 7
Sarah Bennett 3
Elizabeth Bennett 10 Mo

and in 1891

John Bennett 68
Mary Bennett 61
Sarah Bennett 32
Jane Bennett 23
Louisa Bennett 21
Thomas R H Bennett 2 - grandson
[Ancestry has him as son of Louisa but there is no indication of that on the original image]

This looks like that Louisa Bennett (Tasley is in Bridgnorth reg dist):

Births Dec 1867
Bennett Louisa Bridgnorth 6a 552

>>> and yes she is definitely the one married in 1899
** so rule her out **

1901

Name: Louisa Ager
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Isaac
Where born: Tasley, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: St Leonard


(Contrary to what I say in the next post, I am indeed muddling through the long thread and sorting out and editing here.)

Sandra

Sandra Report 7 Apr 2010 21:02

I have spent 6 1/2 hours with 2 very kind helpers from the Local History & Research Library looking for Lucy - no luck it is obvious that her birth was never registered, I have looked at all the local parish records and can find no record of her baptism - so I have decided to call it a day for now - many thanks for all your help.

Sandra

Sandra Report 5 Apr 2010 18:32

Can anyone tell me why I cannot find Fred McGliston on any census records and he was a witness at Lucy & Williams marriage in 1895

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Apr 2010 16:52

Have nudged the full thread on 'Surname Information' "2 Lucy's"

Rambling

Rambling Report 5 Apr 2010 16:48

Please all new helpers before you go over the same ground read original thread as the name could be any variant of Lucy/ Louisa/ Louise

xx

Sandra

Sandra Report 5 Apr 2010 16:43

This Louisa ticks all the box's but someone told me to discount her because she got married in 1899 and she was a dressmaker. 'my' Lucy was a Domestic Servant and she had had a chid by 1894 and married by 1895

Julie

Julie Report 5 Apr 2010 16:05

If she was Louisa Bennett on her marriage cert could this be her ?

1881 England Census
about Lousia Bennett
Name: Lousia Bennett
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Tasley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Bridgnorth St Leonard
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address: 33 North Gate
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Bridgnorth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bennett 66
Mary Bennett 57
Sarah Bennett 23
William Bennett 18
John Bennett 17
Jane Bennett 15
Lousia Bennett 13

This Louisa's father was a farm labourer which could tie in?

Sandra

Sandra Report 5 Apr 2010 15:54

The Lucy Bennett in the information from Starr1 and JoMiWo is NOT my Lucy it is the one I thought was mine for over 20 years.
I can find no Census return for Lucy Ellen Bennett born Wolverhampton 1868 with a father called John Bennett

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Apr 2010 15:50

If the Lucy brn 1867 is not yours, this is the only other one I can find

Births Jun 1868
Bennett Lucy Ellen Wolverhampton 6b 499

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Apr 2010 15:43



see other thread - (7 pages) -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1213733


Sandra

Sandra Report 5 Apr 2010 15:35

I have another thread on GR (two Lucys) I have now found that the Lucy Bennett I always thought was my G.Grandmother (Lucy Bennett born Shrewsbury 1867 to John & Martha is not mine.)
My Lucy Bennett was born in Shropshire 1866/68 but I can find no record of her birth, I only know she was called Lucy Bennett on her daughter Annie's birth certificate in 1894. Louisa Bennett on her marriage to William Shotton 1895 when they both gave their address as Bayston Hill Shrewsbury and her fathers name as John Bennett - labourer . She was Lucy Shotton on her death certificate in 1940 .Can anyone help me to find when Lucy Bennett was born and her parents names. =- PLEASE !!!